Large Truck My truck is bigger than yours. The forum for 2+ ton trucks (all years), COE's, Louisville's, Big-Job's etc.

Complete Brake Failure on 68 F600

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-17-2015, 08:50 PM
TampaDave's Avatar
TampaDave
TampaDave is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Complete Brake Failure on 68 F600

My 1968 F600 has no brakes. Gas engine. Just one fact before we start, Front wheels have no bleeder fittings, previous owner sealed them, so I plan to replace front cylinders when I can get it home.

I started by filling the master cylinder and tried to get bleed the back brakes and frame mounted booster. After replacing multiple rusted and leaking lines, getting good flow to the back brakes and the booster,, still NO brakes.

Replaced the master cylinder and the booster, still no brakes.

SO what should I try next,,, I just really want to get the brakes working well enough to get the truck home safely. 10 mile low speed trip.
 
  #2  
Old 01-18-2015, 05:17 AM
jowilker's Avatar
jowilker
jowilker is offline
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Posts: 24,552
Received 46 Likes on 44 Posts
What a freaking dipstick. I am thinking there is still enough air at the front to keep it from working.

You might go out on a Sunday morning with a couple tires on the rear bumper of another truck and play bumper trucks (Very Carefully) until you got it home. Or place a tow strap on the rear and use the second vehicle for brakes.

Go slow at a very low traffic use time and you might be able to pull it off.



John
 
  #3  
Old 01-18-2015, 10:00 AM
Tedster9's Avatar
Tedster9
Tedster9 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Waterloo, Iowa
Posts: 19,311
Likes: 0
Received 66 Likes on 65 Posts
Originally Posted by TampaDave
Front wheels have no bleeder fittings, previous owner sealed them ...
What wizardry is this? Why would anybody do that.
 
  #4  
Old 01-18-2015, 10:05 AM
JWC 3's Avatar
JWC 3
JWC 3 is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 7,859
Received 22 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by Tedster9
What wizardry is this? Why would anybody do that.
The same guy that designed the new clutch slave cyl. with no bleeders !
 
  #5  
Old 01-18-2015, 10:28 AM
TigerDan's Avatar
TigerDan
TigerDan is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The hills of No. Calif.
Posts: 12,169
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
You might be able to bleed the fronts fairly well by cracking open the brake line where it screws into the wheel cylinder. That might at least get enough air out to get them working a bit.

Did you bench-bleed the Master before you installed it? I always wind up cracking the lines open where they attach to the Master to bleed a little air out after installing. Helps to get the Master to pump up a lot quicker. I just pump the pedal and even if it's not getting firm I hold it down and crack the lines, usually get a small puff of air and then fluid. After a couple cycles it starts to firm up.

Did you bleed it at the booster too? I assume so, since you state you're getting good flow to it...
 
  #6  
Old 01-18-2015, 10:40 AM
Tedster9's Avatar
Tedster9
Tedster9 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Waterloo, Iowa
Posts: 19,311
Likes: 0
Received 66 Likes on 65 Posts
Originally Posted by JWC 3
The same guy that designed the new clutch slave cyl. with no bleeders !
Have seen some stupid stuff, tho usually there was a method to the madness at least.
 
  #7  
Old 01-21-2015, 03:03 AM
Notmeofficer's Avatar
Notmeofficer
Notmeofficer is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,027
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My respectful advice based on the issue

Rebuild the entire system.. starting with wheel cylinders and moving to brake master,, and then hydrovac.. brake hoses as well (good call on master and hydrovac)

Never compromise on old medium duty brakes at all.. especially when the PO did something wierd.. there is no reason to "seal" brake cylinders .. which means the monkey mechanics were at work.. that means someone didnt know what they were doing.. that means potential catostrophic failure
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mrf-100
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
08-19-2014 08:18 PM
Nseal1996
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
06-25-2012 02:59 PM
70-360fe
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
04-22-2012 10:50 AM
ChugginAlong
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
03-17-2012 07:37 PM
shameless
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
10-01-2011 03:25 PM



Quick Reply: Complete Brake Failure on 68 F600



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:20 AM.