Is Ford Replacing All Their Gasoline V8s with EcoBoost?
#16
I believe Cadillac produced a V8 as early as 1914 known as the L-Head. However, it was expensive and unattainable to the working class people of the day. Ford was the first to stuff a V8 engine in a car that the working joe could afford, and the rest is hot rod history.
#17
I agree, though I do expect V8's to change in the future...Perhaps downsized even more than they have in recent years. I was having this conversation with a good friend of mine the other day ''He's not a car guy''...He referred to my F-150's 5.0L V8 as a ''Massive Engine'' which I found kind of funny, because two decade's ago a 5.0L V8 was among the smallest of the 8 cylinder engines offered in Ford trucks.
#18
Pretty much. The only time the 5.0 was good during around that time was when it was in the Explorer/Mountaineers. Never felt sluggish but I think those were only multiport injected and not throttle body injection.
#19
They could make a MUCH more efficient V8 if they wanted. The turbo V6 in a truck is not the way to go. Trucks are just too heavy for a V6 to pull efficiently in the real world. They have to relie too greatly on the turbines which in turn use more gas. They could be more efficient if they were not going in half ton trucks or if people didn't use trucks to tow or haul. No matter how much aluminum they try to use, the trucks are still HEAVY. Sure they have the power but they don't have the efficiency. You just can't have both in a large vehicle.
They should adjust their scale of thought and work on more powerful, more efficient V8s for half ton trucks.
They should adjust their scale of thought and work on more powerful, more efficient V8s for half ton trucks.
#20
They could make a MUCH more efficient V8 if they wanted. The turbo V6 in a truck is not the way to go. Trucks are just too heavy for a V6 to pull efficiently in the real world. They have to relie too greatly on the turbines which in turn use more gas. They could be more efficient if they were not going in half ton trucks or if people didn't use trucks to tow or haul. No matter how much aluminum they try to use, the trucks are still HEAVY. Sure they have the power but they don't have the efficiency. You just can't have both in a large vehicle.
They should adjust their scale of thought and work on more powerful, more efficient V8s for half ton trucks.
They should adjust their scale of thought and work on more powerful, more efficient V8s for half ton trucks.
My ecoboost is geared with 3.31 axles and carries a better tow rating than a 2009-2014 5.0L with a numerically higher ratio. At 70 MPH I'm taching below 1800 RPM's and I'm getting superior MPG's.
#21
Adjusting to elevation is where turbos do well over N/A engines I'll say that much. I'm not skeptical to what these engines can do, its just the added costs and complexity of turbocharging that makes me nervous. If everything on these can last over 10+ years of the rust belt without major and expensive issues then I would jump on the EB bandwagon.
I'm still a believe of working on my own vehicles and fixing them (which is getting harder and harder every year). Is turbocharging worth the extra costs?
I'm still a believe of working on my own vehicles and fixing them (which is getting harder and harder every year). Is turbocharging worth the extra costs?
#22
I TOTALLY disagree that V8's can't be replaced with forced induction V6's. I hope the V8 never totally goes away, as I'm very pleased with it in both my Mustang and F150. I'm amazed that folks would think that Ford doesn't know what they're doing (in general). I'm sure they have some of the best engineers that money can buy and these concepts have been thoroughly tested. Do they make mistakes (like every manufacturer)...SURE!!! But I don't think they're so inept that they would just retire the V8's for V6's "off the cuff".
#23
I would think the V8 will be in half-ton pickups for the near future, but they aren't a must for most people. Most pickups are so overpowered now that it's been overkill. Ecoboost is just one link in the chain, IMO. There needs to be a Diesel option, and that will really provide a mpg increase (but then there's added fuel and option cost), so if there was a magic bullet to solve the power and efficiency issues we face today, there would be no issue. The V8 could become a high cost option in the future for those that want it bad enough, who knows, but time will ultimately tell if V8's will be fazed out or not.
#24
#29
Like it or not fuel economy is a concern. and turbocharging is one way to have the little engine and fuel economy and power.........I believe in time the 1/2 tons will not have V8s. Chevy did not have a V8 in their trucks until 1955. and they had 6s...as did Chrysler.......we will get used to it...........I have a '13 F150 with the 6.2. but its not my daily driver and it never will be, and I know its rare, so I will keep it probably for the rest of my life.
#30