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Now I'm pretty sure my timing chain is stretched out.
I have a 1976 F 100 with a 302 and 3 on the tree.
It is just a simple work truck.
It should just have a stock came in it.
I can do the work my self but not sure what timing set to use.
I was thinking of buying a geared set or a double roller set.
The auto part store had other variations of these types, but these are the cheapest. Will these fit under a stock timing cover, and are these good for a
work truck and are these good durable?
I dont need it for performance.
I just need something reliable and durable.
I was hoping to find something at my local auto part store with a
decent warranty.
Don't get the Comp cams timing sets. They used to be made by Cloyes. Ordered one for an FE last year and it said MADE IN CHINA all over the chain. Sad. Looks like SA gear is the supplier for Comp cams timing sets now.
ALSO I used the C-3057K the other guy suggested in my 351W. It stretched 4* in 600 miles. I am now using a Cloyes Original true roller timing set. No problems.
Buy this and be done with it. DO NOT use the nylon coated timing sets. They're known to split apart and wind up in your oil pump pickup screen. I've gone through that on two different engines now that I've torn apart. Set the timing straight up and be happy
Thanks Matthew for sharing your experience. Did you try the Chinese made Comp Cams set? If so, was it better or worse than the Cloyes C-3057K?
It's impossible to tell from Summit's catalog where a particular part comes from or how well it works, so it's up to someone actually seeing or using it to find out. About the only thing you may be able go by are specifications they may post (0.20 - 0.22" rollers on the "HD" set vs 0.25" rollers on the "Street" set). But if they don't provide that info, you would have to rely on someone else's experience.
The Comp cams set was for a 390 FE. It came out of the box, saw that and went back to Summit. Replaced it with a Cloyes which looked much better all the way around. We still haven't built that engine yet. The C-3057K is just a cheap standard double roller, it doesn't have rollers in the chain like the street and original true rollers do. I personally cannot tell much of a difference between the street and original true roller. Sounds like the same stuff to me. I even emailed them about it and didn't understand it. The $45 one will suffice. The original true roller like I have is $109 now... The Edelbrock timing sets also appear to be made by Cloyes. Same description and all for the most part.
This is the C-3057K
This is the original true roller.
The chain on the street and original true rollers are much beefier.
The Cloyes timing set I recommended has -4 +4 and straight up timing. You COULD advance the timing 4* with the stock cam, but your engine will run out of steam on the top end faster. Either one will be vastly better than the retarded timing it came from the factory with. I highly doubt the stock cams have any advance built in to them like the aftermarket cams of today have. But, I've never seen the specs of the stock cams.
Go above and READ what I said about it. I had a very bad experience with the C3057K.
Well that was your experience. Mine's still doing the job in my 400+ HP 331. It's the stock O.E. Double row, roller chain Cloyes set bought at O'Reillys or $25
Well that was your experience. Mine's still doing the job in my 400+ HP 331. It's the stock O.E. Double row, roller chain Cloyes set bought at O'Reillys or $25
01-03-2015, 05:42 AM
