None too happy with Ford/ESP right now
#136
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
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#138
Sure they do, they are covered under the same warranty every other Ford product gets. They deny any claims they determine to be as a result of abuse just like anything else. Racing is considered abuse.
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
A number of early GTR's fractured the gear teeth in the transmission using launch control, and had to stump up the 20k trans replacement cost themselves...
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Sure they do, they are covered under the same warranty every other Ford product gets. They deny any claims they determine to be as a result of abuse just like anything else. Racing is considered abuse.
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
#140
Gerry- I would, but my wife's out driving it, ror. She might have missed it more than me.....not!
Jh- geico filed it under the "collision" section of my policy, using the catchword "pothole". The initial adjuster did balk upon seeing all the clearly mechanical failure items (which would have left me over a serious barrel, financially responsible for the entire bill) but I was able to meet with his supervisor who was able to....how should I phrase it.....play in the grey areas? And we essentially "agreed" that the suspension failure was a result of some egregious impact with an aforementioned "pothole"......
Very stand up of them, I gotta say. All I'm responsible for is my $250 deductible. I advised them from the get-go to seek reimbursement from ESP, but I don't know if they are.
Bruce- I had briefly updated the one page- I was out working the truck, lol, too many tasks that were put off.
Jh- geico filed it under the "collision" section of my policy, using the catchword "pothole". The initial adjuster did balk upon seeing all the clearly mechanical failure items (which would have left me over a serious barrel, financially responsible for the entire bill) but I was able to meet with his supervisor who was able to....how should I phrase it.....play in the grey areas? And we essentially "agreed" that the suspension failure was a result of some egregious impact with an aforementioned "pothole"......
Very stand up of them, I gotta say. All I'm responsible for is my $250 deductible. I advised them from the get-go to seek reimbursement from ESP, but I don't know if they are.
Bruce- I had briefly updated the one page- I was out working the truck, lol, too many tasks that were put off.
#141
You're the second poster just in this thread alone, myself being the third, that have reported problems with their 11+ SD ball joints wearing out. It's shockingly so apparently prevalent an issue that some nice guy on Youtube recorded an entire walk-through on replacing the ball joints on a new 6.7......I woulda never thought I'd find that.....
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
Either way regardless, Ford shouldn't have d!cked me over like they did. We had a contract written in plain English that covered me for those component failures.
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
Either way regardless, Ford shouldn't have d!cked me over like they did. We had a contract written in plain English that covered me for those component failures.
#142
You're the second poster just in this thread alone, myself being the third, that have reported problems with their 11+ SD ball joints wearing out. It's shockingly so apparently prevalent an issue that some nice guy on Youtube recorded an entire walk-through on replacing the ball joints on a new 6.7......I woulda never thought I'd find that.....
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
Either way regardless, Ford shouldn't have d!cked me over like they did. We had a contract written in plan English that covered me for those component failures.
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
Either way regardless, Ford shouldn't have d!cked me over like they did. We had a contract written in plan English that covered me for those component failures.
All of my Dad's farm trucks (all F250/ 350's) from late '70's model to a 1994 had issues with front wheel bearings / ball joints. Which to be honest, those trucks caught he!!.
I guess you can get good or bad on any brand truck, I've just had more front end issues with Ford products.
#143
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
It's like sampling the waiting room at an oncologist and asking them how many have had cancer. Of course the majority are going to say yes. It's still not a representation of the population in general.
That's not to say I disagree with you about the way Ford handled your case. I think you were wronged.
#144
You're the second poster just in this thread alone, myself being the third, that have reported problems with their 11+ SD ball joints wearing out. It's shockingly so apparently prevalent an issue that some nice guy on Youtube recorded an entire walk-through on replacing the ball joints on a new 6.7......I woulda never thought I'd find that.....
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
Either way regardless, Ford shouldn't have d!cked me over like they did. We had a contract written in plain English that covered me for those component failures.
So, I mean, yeah, it's a small sampling size, but that could be looked at both ways: sure there are thousands of 6.7's out there we don't know about, that could or could not have any ball joint issues, but of the, what, 2-3 dozen posters in this thread alone, we know of 3 having problems?
Either way regardless, Ford shouldn't have d!cked me over like they did. We had a contract written in plain English that covered me for those component failures.
I mean, if you want to be as much a dick about it as Ford was, contact the NHTSA with your case. They will care. If you have other examples of vehicles that have also done it, they will care more.
#145
Here's the link to what my credit union offers....looking for input. Currently have Ford ESP 72mo/100k mi. purchased for $2989.
Brochure:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...BCComboBro.pdf
Deductibles:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4jnv5ympi...ge002.png?dl=0
Brochure:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...BCComboBro.pdf
Deductibles:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4jnv5ympi...ge002.png?dl=0
#146
Here's the link to what my credit union offers....looking for input. Currently have Ford ESP 72mo/100k mi. purchased for $2989.
Brochure:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...BCComboBro.pdf
Deductibles:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4jnv5ympi...ge002.png?dl=0
Brochure:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...BCComboBro.pdf
Deductibles:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4jnv5ympi...ge002.png?dl=0
Originally Posted by National Auto Care Corp
PLEASE NOTE: ADMINISTRATOR MAY REQUIRE THE
USE OF REMANUFACTURED OR USED REPLACEMENT
PARTS FOR REPAIRS COVERED UNDER YOUR
VEHICLE SERVICE AGREEMENT.
USE OF REMANUFACTURED OR USED REPLACEMENT
PARTS FOR REPAIRS COVERED UNDER YOUR
VEHICLE SERVICE AGREEMENT.
I wouldn't consider an aftermarket warranty on a new truck.
#147
#148
Not to de-rail this thread much more, but to add onto the points mentioned above, and I've said before, when comparing Geico MBI or a credit union offering- it appears both non-Ford coverages expire at 100k miles. My Ford ESP "coverage" (quoted for subjectiveness ) is for 136k mi or sometime in 2017, I forget.....
#149
Sure they do, they are covered under the same warranty every other Ford product gets. They deny any claims they determine to be as a result of abuse just like anything else. Racing is considered abuse.
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
I remember some talk a few years ago about Mitsubishi voiding the warranty of cars they were able to prove were raced. There was some speculation that there were people spotting their Evolution cars at drag strips and weeks later being sent notices that their powertrain warranty was voided. Just like the SVTs, the cars were sold with a warranty that was subsequently voided when they were raced.
Seems like Ford might be sending mixed signals. Why advertise something that will void owners warranties?
#150
Sorry, just to make sure I understand all of this:
You were just driving along in a flat field when all of a sudden your ball joints "failed" in such a way that it caused "catastrophic suspension, drivetrain (front axle), and body damage."
That doesn't sound like warranty work. That sounds like you need to call your insurance company and report a single-vehicle event due to hidden obstructions, jumping the truck, a surprise hole, and/or driving way too fast before hitting whatever it was that blew up your truck.
Can we get an honest story of what actually happened and what constitutes "failure" of a ball joint? Did you hit something so hard they sheared or something?
It's very understandable how Ford might react when some dude brings a wrecked truck and wants them to fix it because he thinks maybe when he was out mudding the ball joints should've held up better.
You were just driving along in a flat field when all of a sudden your ball joints "failed" in such a way that it caused "catastrophic suspension, drivetrain (front axle), and body damage."
That doesn't sound like warranty work. That sounds like you need to call your insurance company and report a single-vehicle event due to hidden obstructions, jumping the truck, a surprise hole, and/or driving way too fast before hitting whatever it was that blew up your truck.
Can we get an honest story of what actually happened and what constitutes "failure" of a ball joint? Did you hit something so hard they sheared or something?
It's very understandable how Ford might react when some dude brings a wrecked truck and wants them to fix it because he thinks maybe when he was out mudding the ball joints should've held up better.