I was down at the Ford dealership and found a couple of unlocked trucks. In measuring the dimensions, from glass to glass across both the front and rear seats, the 2015 F-150 is about 1 inch narrower in the front and 2 inches narrower in the rear than a 2015 F-350. The F-150's are closer in size across the cabin to the Rams which have similar dimensions.

The track of the new F-150's is within an inch of the F-350's and again about the same width as a Ram 3500.

Adam

 

Door panels narrow the F150 hip room. Change the panels, and you have more hip room than the SD.

 

The Current (soon to be classic) Super Duty cab was what kept Ford in the medium truck business for years. The success of the Super Duty meant that the F650/750 could continue to be viable for Ford. The '97 F150 didn't have a cab with enough strength or space (hard hat wearing crew) for the work that the Super Duty was intended for. The old ('80-'97) cab tooling was sold off to Sterling, so a new cab had to be developed. Since the Super Duty debuted in '98, you can bet that it was being designed at the same time as the jelly bean F150. If the new F150 cab can hang in the oil fields, railroads, logging camps, ranches and other similar places. It will be good. Time will only tell. I see many older Super Duties with 1/2 million miles on them and they still have original paint. The doors still open and close like they should and the body bushings have not collapsed. The original Super Duty was a commercial truck. Regardless of the sheet metal, the new one will have to be in order to survive. Whether it's a grocery getter or a commercial work horse.

 

Didn't know Freightliner got the '80-'96 F-series cab tooling, I know they bought all the tooling for the old L's. There wasn't supposed to be a Super Duty medium, Ford's plan was to use the '96 HN80 cab (new Louisville) on the 1980-1998 F series medium chassis to create a new medium duty truck. It was supposed to have gone on sale sometime around 1997, but when Ford sold out to Freightliner that new cab was part of the deal so the truck didn't happen. So, as a stopgap to stay in the medium business, Ford adapted the Super Duty cab to that 1980 F series medium duty chassis. I think they had to beef it up some, there was a big brace welded to the front cab mounts and firewall. That truck was only around 3 years, 2000-2002. Ford then passed their medium duty business to International. The 2003-2015 Ford 650/750 are not really Ford trucks, they are International 4400/Durastars with Cummins engines and Super Duty cabs. From what I understand, the new 2016 Ford built 650/750 will still use the current Super Duty cab but will now feature composite doors. The 2017 Super Duty is supposed to use the new F-150 aluminum cab with a different grille and hood.

 

The Medium duty trucks are not super duty cabs. F650/750 use an entirely different cab, just look at one! But yes, starting this year they are now built in the USA with a Ford designed truck, engine, and transmission. The frames are being shipped up from Mexico I believe.

 

Are you talking about comparing a 2013 F-250 to a 2013 F-650 for instance? I have 2 right in front of me and guess what- they are the same cabs with a few modifications.

 

The cab sheetmetal is the same, F250-750. From the winshield back. Hasn't changed since the Super Duty was introduced.

 

*Foot in mouth*

Metal is the same and entirely different interiors. My bad.

 

We will soon find out, I turn a wrench for a multi million dollar construction firm, every year he buy's 6-8 f-350s and 2 f650's, we just finished upfitting the 2015's he bought, l-pack, mason dump, snow plow,salter ect, he never trades in a truck I have 79-2011 in what we call the bone yard, unregistered and un insured we use them for parts for the trucks that are still running, thats how I'm able to get parts to guy's on FTE who cant find them. They take a beating we will see what happens next year.