Can I fill my old home heating oil tank with on-road diesel?
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#32
It is very important to note:
ANYBODY who tells you this is illegal or unsafe is simply WRONG and does not know what they are talking about. It is not a matter of opinion, and it does not differ state to state. It is not a matter of "nobody will notice if you do it", it's a matter of "it's perfectly safe, legal, and acceptable in every possible way".
#33
My heating oil guy has NEVER ran a bonding rod from his truck to my tank. My tank has no rounding rod aside from the 4 legs.<br />
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Passed home inspection and he just dropped off 250 gallons yesterday.<br />
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all the "information" in this thread iscorrect.......if you are a commercial entity transporting fuel. As the OP is not a commercial entity,all of the information is moot.
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Passed home inspection and he just dropped off 250 gallons yesterday.<br />
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all the "information" in this thread iscorrect.......if you are a commercial entity transporting fuel. As the OP is not a commercial entity,all of the information is moot.
#34
My heating oil guy has NEVER ran a bonding rod from his truck to my tank. My tank has no rounding rod aside from the 4 legs.
Passed home inspection and he just dropped off 250 gallons yesterday.
all the "information" in this thread iscorrect.......if you are a commercial entity transporting fuel. As the OP is not a commercial entity,all of the information is moot.
Passed home inspection and he just dropped off 250 gallons yesterday.
all the "information" in this thread iscorrect.......if you are a commercial entity transporting fuel. As the OP is not a commercial entity,all of the information is moot.
And also I've run heating oil in diesel engines before, and they get considerably louder, so no way is it the exact same oil mixture. I think the furnace heating oil burns hotter and faster.
Just my opinion.
#35
Within the spec, #2 diesel fuel can be substituted for #2 heating oil, but not the other way around. This means if a supplier ran low on heating oil, they could substitute road fuel with dye. This is important because it also means the heating oil tank you already have, is already 100% on spec for holding diesel fuel.
#36
Actually, I also have problems getting diesel to burn right outside in my garage furnace.
-20 outside, and diesel in the system, I need to warm up the burning chamber and blower with a hair dryer.
With actual furnace oil, it just fires right up like it should.
Until very recently, I thought they were the same fuel minus the dye, but this is simply not true.
-20 outside, and diesel in the system, I need to warm up the burning chamber and blower with a hair dryer.
With actual furnace oil, it just fires right up like it should.
Until very recently, I thought they were the same fuel minus the dye, but this is simply not true.
#37
As the OP is in Port Orchard, WA, where the temps are mild, it is most likely almost the same thing, minus some additives.
#38
#39
As for dyed fuel, it very much is very illegal to use on road and I take offense to anybody that does that. If you get caught with dyed diesel on the road it usually starts with a very stiff fine for the very first offense. (Around $5,000) The red dye lasts for a very long time.
It's funny the lengths people will go to hide their use of red fuel - if you don't want to pay taxes you can just buy regular fuel at any gas station and send in your receipts for a refund on the tax for every gallon. You just have to convince the govt that you aren't burning it on the road. If they believe you they will send you a refund. It even works for gasoline. That's what I do for the fuel in my shop heater, which burns taxed road fuel usually.
For some reason whenever somebody asks about storing bulk diesel it becomes a discussion about tax evasion. It's just as easy to order up a bulk tank of clear, taxed road fuel, and you'll get a discount for ordering in bulk. The last time I called about buying bulk road diesel, it was about 20 cents cheaper per gallon cheaper than the cheapest local discount station after 300 gallons. Have to be careful and order it when prices are down.
#40
LOL. You obviously didn't read the thread.
As for dyed fuel, it very much is very illegal to use on road and I take offense to anybody that does that. If you get caught with dyed diesel on the road it usually starts with a very stiff fine for the very first offense. (Around $5,000) The red dye lasts for a very long time.
It's funny the lengths people will go to hide their use of red fuel - if you don't want to pay taxes you can just buy regular fuel at any gas station and send in your receipts for a refund on the tax for every gallon. You just have to convince the govt that you aren't burning it on the road. If they believe you they will send you a refund. It even works for gasoline. That's what I do for the fuel in my shop heater, which burns taxed road fuel usually.
For some reason whenever somebody asks about storing bulk diesel it becomes a discussion about tax evasion. It's just as easy to order up a bulk tank of clear, taxed road fuel, and you'll get a discount for ordering in bulk. The last time I called about buying bulk road diesel, it was about 20 cents cheaper per gallon cheaper than the cheapest local discount station after 300 gallons. Have to be careful and order it when prices are down.
As for dyed fuel, it very much is very illegal to use on road and I take offense to anybody that does that. If you get caught with dyed diesel on the road it usually starts with a very stiff fine for the very first offense. (Around $5,000) The red dye lasts for a very long time.
It's funny the lengths people will go to hide their use of red fuel - if you don't want to pay taxes you can just buy regular fuel at any gas station and send in your receipts for a refund on the tax for every gallon. You just have to convince the govt that you aren't burning it on the road. If they believe you they will send you a refund. It even works for gasoline. That's what I do for the fuel in my shop heater, which burns taxed road fuel usually.
For some reason whenever somebody asks about storing bulk diesel it becomes a discussion about tax evasion. It's just as easy to order up a bulk tank of clear, taxed road fuel, and you'll get a discount for ordering in bulk. The last time I called about buying bulk road diesel, it was about 20 cents cheaper per gallon cheaper than the cheapest local discount station after 300 gallons. Have to be careful and order it when prices are down.
So would it offend ya, if I told ya that I got a hot rod, runs off of high octane moonshine and I grow the corn myself.
#41
I think the #1 rule was that it is a personal vehicle, not commercial or for hire.
So, if it is legal to run on the road without taxed fuels, the only thing you're really doing wrong is the lack of paperwork.
Question, what do you figure it costs you to make a gallon of high octane shine?
Are you doing it for cost effective reasons, or just for the fun and creativity of it?
I think alternative fueled vehicles are cool, but most people trying to brew fuel, are doing it at a cost over conventional fuel, while those burning waste oils are merely taking advantage of a resource that isn't available to the masses.
#42
I don't know about every state or province in north america, but some places I know you can get a certificate of some type that allows you to burn alternative fuels.
I think the #1 rule was that it is a personal vehicle, not commercial or for hire.
So, if it is legal to run on the road without taxed fuels, the only thing you're really doing wrong is the lack of paperwork.
Question, what do you figure it costs you to make a gallon of high octane shine?
Are you doing it for cost effective reasons, or just for the fun and creativity of it?
I think alternative fueled vehicles are cool, but most people trying to brew fuel, are doing it at a cost over conventional fuel, while those burning waste oils are merely taking advantage of a resource that isn't available to the masses.
I think the #1 rule was that it is a personal vehicle, not commercial or for hire.
So, if it is legal to run on the road without taxed fuels, the only thing you're really doing wrong is the lack of paperwork.
Question, what do you figure it costs you to make a gallon of high octane shine?
Are you doing it for cost effective reasons, or just for the fun and creativity of it?
I think alternative fueled vehicles are cool, but most people trying to brew fuel, are doing it at a cost over conventional fuel, while those burning waste oils are merely taking advantage of a resource that isn't available to the masses.
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