Does this match the symptoms of CAC condensation?
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let's stay on track gentlemen.
QwkTrip,
FWIW -- yes, the check engine light may take a while to come on, even for a misfire that is easily detectable by the driver's butt-o-meter. The engine light might not come on, but there will be a pending code stored in the system if a severe misfire was detected.
also, if an upshift was commanded and the transmission failed to respond this may not turn on the CEL for a one time event but the PCM should still store a pending code.
if i were to guess .... i'd say you got a slug of water from the CAC which caused a misfire. if the engine was severely misfiring, and upshift could cause a stall condition and might not have been commanded by the PCM to prevent a stall, so the transmission is not likely your problem, again, if i were to guess.
either way, getting the system scanned for pending codes should tell you what kind of problem(s) you had. Pending codes are cleared after a defined number of cycles, though (can't remember how many, off hand), so don't wait too long to get it scanned if that is something you think might help you out.
a parts store code reader will read a misfire code, but it will not read a transmission code, so you'll have to go somewhere that has a very good scanner, e.g. dealership, or independent mechanic.
QwkTrip,
FWIW -- yes, the check engine light may take a while to come on, even for a misfire that is easily detectable by the driver's butt-o-meter. The engine light might not come on, but there will be a pending code stored in the system if a severe misfire was detected.
also, if an upshift was commanded and the transmission failed to respond this may not turn on the CEL for a one time event but the PCM should still store a pending code.
if i were to guess .... i'd say you got a slug of water from the CAC which caused a misfire. if the engine was severely misfiring, and upshift could cause a stall condition and might not have been commanded by the PCM to prevent a stall, so the transmission is not likely your problem, again, if i were to guess.
either way, getting the system scanned for pending codes should tell you what kind of problem(s) you had. Pending codes are cleared after a defined number of cycles, though (can't remember how many, off hand), so don't wait too long to get it scanned if that is something you think might help you out.
a parts store code reader will read a misfire code, but it will not read a transmission code, so you'll have to go somewhere that has a very good scanner, e.g. dealership, or independent mechanic.
#21
If you look at Moroso's Belt Driven Vacuum pump PVC system containing their Catch Can for excess oil collection you will arrive at the proper usage inclusion that constant vacuum in the block & keeping the combustion vapors the block contains from getting into the CAC is what you need and the OEM version is not so good at doing it. OF course the system or systems like it are for Sanctioned events mostly. Using a system of evacuation from the block after the turbos into the exhaust system also worked in the past their just old school. These tubes will enter the exhaust pipes at an angle allowing a vacuum draw of vapors due to the speed and pressure changes of the gasses passing them in the pipes and draw from the block in operation and not need an additional vacuum pump installation.
Main thing to know is the Synthetic oil vaporized in the engine block has water join up with it as they condense, most of these have a natural vapor state, synthetic oil can actually be made from natural gas and ( water likes a particle to grab onto when it changes from vapor to liquid). So the Condensate contains oil, water/oil/other chemicals, in clear form and the additive package which gives the clear oil color is also elsewhere in the condensate so you can see them as a chocolate malt bubbly mix or separated out into different levels of substances which when shaken/stirred quickly mix right back up to once again separate out if allowed shelf time.
The whole thing about condensate denial is that the water is not there all alone mostly. It is joined up with chemicals for the most part although you can see drops of water around the collection bottle sides at times.
Chemists have proven that water readily as it changes back to liquid will unite with oil as one substance and is a fact.
Main thing to know is the Synthetic oil vaporized in the engine block has water join up with it as they condense, most of these have a natural vapor state, synthetic oil can actually be made from natural gas and ( water likes a particle to grab onto when it changes from vapor to liquid). So the Condensate contains oil, water/oil/other chemicals, in clear form and the additive package which gives the clear oil color is also elsewhere in the condensate so you can see them as a chocolate malt bubbly mix or separated out into different levels of substances which when shaken/stirred quickly mix right back up to once again separate out if allowed shelf time.
The whole thing about condensate denial is that the water is not there all alone mostly. It is joined up with chemicals for the most part although you can see drops of water around the collection bottle sides at times.
Chemists have proven that water readily as it changes back to liquid will unite with oil as one substance and is a fact.
#22
Same thing happened with our 2012 F150 EB. First time...no flashing lights, no check engine lights. Just got on it to pass and thought the truck was going to shake itself apart. This time (this past Sunday) got the same awful shake but this time the check engine light is on. Sure is frustrating! Waiting to see what the dealer has to say THIS time when I finally can get it taken in on Monday!
#23
Simply drill the small hole in the driver side bottom of the CAC and check the spark plugs gaps if you don't get codes for throttle body, O2's or Catz, you can easily plug the hole in the bottom of the CAC with a small screw from a child's toy battery cover if you feel the need to delete questions at an inspection. Every time you see a mess under it on the garage floor you will have a good driving day before you.
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Same thing happened with our 2012 F150 EB. First time...no flashing lights, no check engine lights. Just got on it to pass and thought the truck was going to shake itself apart. This time (this past Sunday) got the same awful shake but this time the check engine light is on. Sure is frustrating! Waiting to see what the dealer has to say THIS time when I finally can get it taken in on Monday!
Crystal
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Very similar symptoms with my ECO. loss of power, Missing and falling on its face when trying to pass or accelerating up hill no CEL. Went to dealer he was worthless as he was with my transmission noise "can not duplicate". I topped tank with supreme drove in tow haul mode and it felt better. I filled with supreme again and it was back to running normal. poss bad fuel?