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Old 12-13-2014, 09:44 PM
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Parts needed for power steering, transmission linkage

Ok I am trying move forward with some upgrades to the 71 f100. I will be getting my 240 rebuilt. I have a c4 tranny in-house and I found someone who can supply me with a steering column from a 1969 F100 that was equipped with power steering and automatic transmission.
I can get the power steering gear from napa/advanced/etc. Same for the power steering pump and hoses.
Now can someone provide with the part numbers for the power steering pump bracket that would work with my 240/300?
Of course a list of part numbers for the steering gear, steering pump, hoses, etc. would be nice.
What am I missing?
As to the C4. I just have a transmission. What do I need in the way of the kickdown lever and the attachments from the steering column to the transmission.




My source says this came from a 1969 with auto and power steering.
 
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Old 12-13-2014, 10:02 PM
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I am not sure what kick down you need but I have a 300 here with this one.
 
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hillcountryflt
Ok I am trying move forward with some upgrades to the 71 f100. I will be getting my 240 rebuilt. I have a c4 tranny in-house and I found someone who can supply me with a steering column from a 1969 F100 that was equipped with power steering and automatic transmission.






My source says this came from a 1969 with auto and power steering.
TWO different types of P/S were used in 1969, Bendix & Ford/Saginaw.

The lengths of the steering column shafts are specific to each type. 1971/72 with Ford/Saginaw P/S use the same column, but it's not the same as 1969/70 w/Ford/Saginaw.

C7AZ-3A732-A .. P/S Pump Bracket / 1967/76 F100/350 240/300 & 1967/72 Galaxie/LTD 240 / Obsolete ~ No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

Lower portion of pic is for the 240/300 - 8680 idler pulley is only used with factory A/C

Make sure you get the correct P/S pump as there are two different types, there are also two different types of P/S pressure hoses.

1966/77, the pump has a steel reservoir, the P/S pressure hose threads onto the pump.

1978 and later has a plastic reservoir, it's also a different shape than 1966/77, so the bracket is specific. The P/S pressure hose attaches to the pump w/a qwik connect fitting.

IMO, you're doing this the wrong way, should have gotten all the parts from a 1970/76 F100 or 1975/76 F150 240/300 I-6 donor. Piece mealing it is not the way to go.
 
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i thought 69 was all saginaw

I read at fordification that 68 was more of the changeover year from Bendix to Ford Saginaw. Will there be an easy way to identify which this column was used with?
 
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Going the Bendix route could be more expensive:
http://classicsteeringsupply.com/1966-1979-Ford-Truck-BENDIX-Power-steering-conversion-css6679bdx.htm
ND, gotta remember I am in an area with very limited salvage resources. Austin, which is 120 miles to their salvage yards, has the most. San Antonio, 75 miles away, only has one or two.
 
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Originally Posted by hillcountryflt
I read at fordification that 68 was more of the changeover year from Bendix to Ford Saginaw.
I don't give a damn what Fordification claims. If they bothered to look in their 1964/72 truck catalog, they would see that:

Bendix P/S: 1966/68 F100/250 2WD - 1969 F100/250 2WD before serial number D96,001.

Ford/Saginaw P/S: 1969 F100/250 2WD & F350 from serial number D96,001 - 1970/79 F100/250 2WD & F350.

C9TZ-3524-B .. P/S Shaft & Flange-34 5/16" long / 1969 F100/250 2WD before serial number D96,001 (Bendix).

C9TZ-3524-C .. P/S Shaft & Flange-32 7/8" long / 1969 F100/250 2WD & F350 from serial number D96,001 & 1970 F100/250 2WD & F350 (Ford/Saginaw).

D1TZ-3524-A .. P/S Shaft & Flange-33 3/8" long / 1971/72 F100/250 2WD & F350.
 
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Actually they do make a reference to that build number in their how to article on installing p/s on a bump.
I do appreciate your assistance and knowledge. My parts manual look up skills suck with my PDF copies I am working with. Doesn't provide a search function.
 
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ND, gotta remember I am in an area with very limited salvage resources. Austin, which is 120 miles to their salvage yards, has the most. San Antonio, 75 miles away, only has one or two.
I've never been to a TX junkyard, but since day one, more Ford trucks have been sold new in TX than anywhere else.

btw: In 1985, while on the way to the Pate swap meet, I stopped by 3 TX Ford dealers, bought all the obsolete parts from 2 of them.

The 3rd dealer had closed in the early 1970's, but all the parts remain (they're still there today!).

The owner (who also owns the town and the ranch they're located on) isn't interested in selling anything.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I don't give a damn what Fordification claims. If they bothered to look in their 1964/72 truck catalog, they would see that:

Bendix P/S: 1966/68 F100/250 2WD - 1969 F100/250 2WD before serial number D96,001.

Ford/Saginaw P/S: 1969 F100/250 2WD & F350 from serial number D96,001 - 1970/79 F100/250 2WD & F350.

C9TZ-3524-B .. P/S Shaft & Flange-34 5/16" long / 1969 F100/250 2WD before serial number D96,001 (Bendix).

C9TZ-3524-C .. P/S Shaft & Flange-32 7/8" long / 1969 F100/250 2WD & F350 from serial number D96,001 & 1970 F100/250 2WD & F350 (Ford/Saginaw).

D1TZ-3524-A .. P/S Shaft & Flange-33 3/8" long / 1971/72 F100/250 2WD & F350.
Yeah, Keith does a great job with that site but he is totally a computer guy and other than stripping down a few trucks really does not have the hands on experience, he only re-digests information he finds online. Best bet is to listen to Bill on these matters.
And in case I missed it, you will also need the firewall mounting bracket for the saginaw and less important the plate and boot to cover the hole inside. Those of us who have been around these old trucks can walk up to one and tell by the angle of the steering column if it has a Saggy ps in it or not.
 
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Will be waiting to see my steering column and see if I can determine the type of power steering box it was associated with. From what I read here, it is the length that is different. Once I determine that, then I will start the next phase of gathering stuff for the power steering conversion.
 
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Judging by the plate, that's at the lower end of the column in your picture, I'd say it wasn't used with a (taller) Saginaw gear box.

On the left is my old manual steering column plate/boot I pulled out of my '69 F-100. On the right is the boot for the '78 power steering/tilt column to the Saginaw power steering gear box, I installed. It has "PWR" stamped into it. Notice my '69 manual steering boot has the same apparent shape/height as the boot on your column.



Lower steering column brackets that mount on the engine side of the firewall. My (taller) '69 manual steering column bracket on the left. (Shorter) '78 power steering bracket for the Saginaw power steering gear box on the right. --bracket on right has "POWER STNG" stamped into it.



Also in your photo, it appears the lever at the lower end of the column (that connects the rod between it to the lever on the side of the transmission) is bent forward. It should stick straight out, perpendicular, to the column.
 
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There is nothing for 67-72 trucks in most of Texas, I have been in the Midland area for six months and have yet to find one. There are a couple on the road here and there, but none in the junkyards. They got worked hard, used up and thrown away, or are still sitting behind a barn somewhere. I was hoping to find a nice rust free body here but that's not happening.
 
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Ultra, I hope you are correct that this is the saginaw column and thanks for the heads up on the transmission linkage. Not sure what shape this thing will be in. Found it on-line at a place that had lots of old Ford parts for sale.
Ford-six, that part of the state will be hard on vehicles. Between the oil field and the ranching. Near you in Pecos, I have a 1969 parts truck I am supposed to pick up. It has a 240/300 in it of unknown worth. Seems like it pretty rust free - I was trading dents for rust.
 
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Judging by the plate, that's at the lower end of the column in your picture, I'd say it wasn't used with a (taller) Saginaw gear box.

On the left is my old manual steering column plate/boot I pulled out of my '69 F-100. On the right is the boot for the '78 power steering/tilt column to the Saginaw power steering gear box, I installed. It has "PWR" stamped into it. Notice my '69 manual steering boot has the same apparent shape/height as the boot on your column.



Lower steering column brackets that mount on the engine side of the firewall. My (taller) '69 manual steering column bracket on the left. (Shorter) '78 power steering bracket for the Saginaw power steering gear box on the right. --bracket on right has "POWER STNG" stamped into it.



Also in your photo, it appears the lever at the lower end of the column (that connects the rod between it to the lever on the side of the transmission) is bent forward. It should stick straight out, perpendicular, to the column.
The first time I ever converted one, I modified the non power bracket to work and redrilled the holes in my floor to get the boot bolted down. Much easier with the right parts though.
 
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Well, my supplier found a cracked collar on the one he was going to ship and replaced it with this one.
Just from the picture it looks to be in better shape, plus has the gear indicator.

 


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