86F150 shut off after morning high idle!!!
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86F150 shut off after morning high idle!!!
Hey guys I'm wondering if you guys can give me some intel on why my truck is cutting off in the mornings after the initial start?? It high idles and dies, after 3 starts it stays running. It started doing this about 2 months ago and can't figure it out. You guys have solved ALL MY OTHER PROBLEMS in the past with your fountains of intellect and I'm truly thankfull!!
Thank you again for reading and any help!! SEMPER FI 2/3
Thank you again for reading and any help!! SEMPER FI 2/3
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I will venture to guess that the choke needs a "seasonal" adjustment. Perhaps it is too rich upon initial start and after the 3rd attempt, enough time has elapsed that the electrically heated choke has opened enough to run.
When this first began [~2 months ago], did you begin to experience the first cool/cold weather in Virginia?
When this first began [~2 months ago], did you begin to experience the first cool/cold weather in Virginia?
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Thank you SEMPER FI 2/3
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AHHH yes it is getting cold here, I blasted the IAC hole and the intake where my two air cleaner hoses connect and it made a good difference in idle. It looked like thin motor oil running out, I'm going to have to get more carb cleaner!! It has 112000 actual on the truck and I'm 46 but drive around like I'm 90 is what my wife says!! I've been honked at!! I did add headers when I needed an exhaust mani replacement ( wish I hadn't ) I don't know if that has anything to do with the build up or not. I put steel black Hookers on ( I laugh every time ) they were more cost efficient for my monthly Gov income. You guys were RIGHT AGAIN I believe! I truly thank you for your assistance and knowledge without costing me 60 bucks an hour!!
Thank you SEMPER FI 2/3
Thank you SEMPER FI 2/3
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Check your TPS, mine was a tiny bit out of range and it was worse in the winter. Exact symptoms. Do you hear a clicking noise? Mine would flutter the EGR relay because the ECM though it was part throttle. Hopefully no one has "screwed" with the idle screw. I fought a bad aftermarket unit for several months.
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I know that, but ask the average joe, and they will identify it as an idle adjustment, though there is a procedure for setting base idle and TPS voltage with the stop.
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You don't need a code reader to pull codes (but it can make it easier) you can use a test light or analog voltmeter; here's how:
Ford Fuel Injection » How To Run a Self-Test
Given that you have a computer-controlled engine, doesn't it make sense to ask the computer how it feels about things?
Ford Fuel Injection » How To Run a Self-Test
Given that you have a computer-controlled engine, doesn't it make sense to ask the computer how it feels about things?
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if you unplugged the iac and nothing changed, then you most likely have a vacuum leak,or the stop is misadjusted holding the throttle plates open. check your pcv valve then the hose it attaches to, the engine warmed up should have 13 to 15 solid inches of vacuum at curb idle.Tighten up the rocker covers ect. If the iac is functioning correctly when you unplug it the engine should stall.
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In my experience:
1) If you have codes pointing at the IAC (especially KOER codes);
2) If you unplug it with the engine running and nothing changes.
Then the problem is usually in the IAC itself, but that's assuming there are no lower-numbered codes present, there isn't any mechanical binding holding things up, the wiring is in good shape, etc. - IOW generally un-hacked and unmolested.
A misbehaving TPS can contribute to the problems, too.
IMO the easiest thing to do is let the computer help you figure it out.
1) If you have codes pointing at the IAC (especially KOER codes);
2) If you unplug it with the engine running and nothing changes.
Then the problem is usually in the IAC itself, but that's assuming there are no lower-numbered codes present, there isn't any mechanical binding holding things up, the wiring is in good shape, etc. - IOW generally un-hacked and unmolested.
A misbehaving TPS can contribute to the problems, too.
IMO the easiest thing to do is let the computer help you figure it out.
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In my experience:
1) If you have codes pointing at the IAC (especially KOER codes);
2) If you unplug it with the engine running and nothing changes.
Then the problem is usually in the IAC itself, but that's assuming there are no lower-numbered codes present, there isn't any mechanical binding holding things up, the wiring is in good shape, etc. - IOW genenrally un-hacked and unmolested.
A misbehaving TPS can contribute to the problems, too.
IMO the easiest thing to do is let the computer help you figure it out.
1) If you have codes pointing at the IAC (especially KOER codes);
2) If you unplug it with the engine running and nothing changes.
Then the problem is usually in the IAC itself, but that's assuming there are no lower-numbered codes present, there isn't any mechanical binding holding things up, the wiring is in good shape, etc. - IOW genenrally un-hacked and unmolested.
A misbehaving TPS can contribute to the problems, too.
IMO the easiest thing to do is let the computer help you figure it out.
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