Injection pump timing no-no's
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I suspect the real risk is more of damaging the lines than anything, if it's loose. The pump can only turn a good 10 degrees of timing in it's slots, so it can't go very far.
I've seen a few videos where the owner rigged up a turn-buckle as an adjustment for timing; then adjusted on-the-fly with the engine running.
I'd be really careful, though.
Personally, I've just moved it a bit, ran it, stopped, etc. It's not a hard/slow process if you trigger the starter from the front of the engine and pull the FSS wire to shut the engine off.
I've seen a few videos where the owner rigged up a turn-buckle as an adjustment for timing; then adjusted on-the-fly with the engine running.
I'd be really careful, though.
Personally, I've just moved it a bit, ran it, stopped, etc. It's not a hard/slow process if you trigger the starter from the front of the engine and pull the FSS wire to shut the engine off.
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i have to correct you.the real risk is in fact severe internal ip damage rendering the ip useless/parts. im not making this stuff up.please heed my warning.it could save you several hundreds.
i have to correct you.the real risk is in fact severe internal ip damage rendering the ip useless/parts. im not making this stuff up.please heed my warning.it could save you several hundreds.
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The gears themselves have a little play, which should take up any slop in how you position the IP relative to the gear cover(remember, there is a cylinder at the end of the IP which slips into a round hole in the gear cover, which prevents the IP from moving "sideways" more than a couple of thousanths) -- and any position you can get to with the engine running you can get to with the engine off!
Just think logically here -- don't repeat FUD.
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From personal experience, I didn't know any better(6-7 years ago) and goofed around with my first pump with the engine running 4-5 times. I thought it was more like a distributor on a gasser than some insanely delicate, ultra-touchy, super-tight-tolerance diesel timing device.
And to be honest I don't think I messed it up any worse than it was already. Before I messed with the timing I put new injectors in, but with the old pump... So that killed the pump. It was leaking fuel out the housing and the forums and Seattle Injector all said there's nothing you can do but rebuild it.
So nothing broke or anything but I agree that if you just bump the solenoid and use the FSS to kill it the adjustments take practically as much time as getting all your timing gear out.
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With the vibration these engines put out it would be near impossible to fine tune with the engine running without a solid mechanical connection like the turnbuckle mentioned above.
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The engine will run just fine without the fan, at least for a while(it takes lots of time to heat up with no load on the engine, from the ~180 you should be at to the 'time to shut down' point of 230.. and really, you'll only be running the engine for a minute or two.
That being said, I recommend leaving the guard on it if you leave the fan on... it's hard to see that fan when it's spinning and when you accidentally touch the fan blade as it's spinning... it hurts. A lot.
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