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Old 11-30-2014, 11:39 AM
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52 F5 Marmon Herrington farm resto

heya gents, well not exactly sure what I've gotten myself into, but I'm in the process of acquiring a 52 F5 with a Marmon-Herrington conversion along with a 52 M6 Merc donor vehicle (has no engine or tranny).
So I've been educating myself here tolling the board for ideas and looking through the factory service manual and think I start to have a grip on it.

The intent is for it to be restored to a working condition only (not for shows) and used as my farm truck (which is why I got the MH). Fellow that has it now is a HD mechanic at a mine in the Rockies and says really all she needs is brake work, an interior, and TLC and it would pass inspection. It at one point had a PTO driven winch on the brush guard, but was removed, so I need to try tracking one down that will work.

My plans for now are:
- Convert it to 12V Neg earth (I have a trailer I want to tow with it that is already 12V Neg wired, plus brake controller, etc)
- 10' Paint job to make her look decent, but more to protect the metal than anything.
- Get a flat deck since the original is long gone by the looks of it.
I know it looks like I will be either contemplating 1) finding new wheels or 2) swapping hubs so I can mount something more readily available... not sure which will be the better way to go to be honest? I think I'll have to go visit the truck tire shop up here and get their opinion on what I can get my hands on.
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So gent's, thoughts and... GO!

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Check out Chuck's Truck's online for MH related stuff.
He will be able to tell ya all ya need to know about the
wheels and hubs and anything ya could ever want or need.
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Looks like a super nice truck to start with.
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Fine looking Rigs you have there, and a GREAT looking mouser in the first pic
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Great looking trucks. I admire you big truck guys, you have interesting obstacles to tackle.


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Add my welcome. Fine set of trucks. Your M-H is a 51 according to its VIN. It has the 51 nose badge, but has gotten a 52 hood somewhere over time. Also, the attached M-H chart from 1951 gives detail about each model within the "R" series. It shows that your F-5, per Ford's classification, is an R6 under M-H's classification due to its 158" wheelbase. The F-6 Ford classification was included in M-H's "V" series. I agree that Chuck is the go to guy for M-H tech. But you're not gonna be swapping hubs. Wheels, perhaps. Stu

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Welcome to FTE! Nice M-H. is the blue one the 52 M6? That looks to be in great shape. Are you swapping the dump hoist and bed from the blue one unto the MH Truck?
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Thanks for the replies all.
It's my first foray into domestics as my first classic was a '76 Austin Leyland Mini that I learned as much as I could on (full frame off once and 2 engine builds).
Thanks for the info stu. I'm going to have to see if I can blow that chart up a bit bigger to make out the detail. Guess I'll be looking for wheels then or getting some made with the old centres. Would love to get some good traction tires for it to keep the burly look of it.
Once we dig them out of the snow and have them on a trailer I will update how it looks, but in the mean time will try and gleen any useful information I can get that will help me with the rebuild.

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Thanks for the replies all.
It's my first foray into domestics as my first classic was a '76 Austin Leyland Mini that I learned as much as I could on (full frame off once and 2 engine builds).
Thanks for the info stu. I'm going to have to see if I can blow that chart up a bit bigger to make out the detail. Guess I'll be looking for wheels then or getting some made with the old centres. Would love to get some good traction tires for it to keep the burly look of it.
Once we dig them out of the snow and have them on a trailer I will update how it looks, but in the mean time will try and gleen any useful information I can get that will help me with the rebuild.

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Wheels for your F-5 won't be hard. Just figure if you want locking ring 20s, or tubeless 19.5s or 22.5s. Finding original looking traction tread tires for any of the three wheel options will be a greater challenge. Stu
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Awesome trucks you have got there! Can't wait to see what you do with them.
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Great looking trucks. I look forward to watching your progress. Be sure to post lots of pictures.
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Nice looking trucks. I have a PTO driven winch available. I am over in Calgary, so send me your email and I can send you some pictures. It was on a old Bronco so I'm thinking it should bolt up to the tranny no problem.
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Stu I think trying to find tubless 22.5's may be the way to go, but a quick Google search has not come up with anything to give me an idea of where to start looking. Tractions would be nice, but as long as it has a decent enough tread for the snow and mud it will most likely encounter up here then that is fine too.
So I put it out there of any good places to start loking for these wheels that we are all trying to find together? especially any in the great white north?

Muppy sent you my e-mail. My folks live in NW Calgary so I'm there every now and then. Just wondering if it would be beefy enough for this rig if it was on a Bronco?

abe- yes the Blue one is the Merc. Almost a shame to use it as a parts donor vehicle, but I'm working with what I have. the dump probably wont get used as I'm using the PTO for a winch it used to have. Then again all that could change when I get them.

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Hey Capt. I will also add my welcome. I had a line on a set of 6 budd 5 lug 22.5s. Dont know if the guy still has them. I will reach out to him and see if they are still around. They are not listed anywhere so dont waste time searching. And I wont post his number so he gets a million calls. If he still has them I will figure out a way to get you in touch with him. Yesterday I found Samson 8.25x20 traction tires at Nebraska Tire. Might be an option if the lock ring 20s dont scare you. Plus there is no searching for traction tires like with the 19.5s or 22.5s. And on a side note......I already called Nebraska tire about traction 19.5s and they dont have any.
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Mike I also have some lock ring 20's off of a 40's dodge you might want to look at. Also I don't see your email address. Here's mine. dmc4@telus.net Doug.
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