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WOT = 30 mph / 2900 rpm, white smoke

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Old 11-27-2014, 09:50 PM
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WOT = 30 mph / 2900 rpm, white smoke

- until I back off the throttle and allow transmission to shift.

Then, WOT = 45 mph / 2900 rpm, white smoke - until I back off the throttle and allow transmission to shift again.
 

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how much boost are you showing on the scan gauge? Same thing mine did when the turbo went out.
 
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:21 PM
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BST reaches 4 or so (this in the lowest gear, at 2900 rpm)
 
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:46 AM
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Pull your EGR valve and make sure it is not sticking open. If that is ok watch VGT on your SGII and see if it hits 85%.
 
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From what I understand the sgII reads boost in corrected PSI, so if you are getting 4 psi you have virtually no turbo boost. 2003 doesn't have a boost gauge on the dash nor does it have a wrench light to show over/under boost. One cause of white smoke is a drastic difference between fueling and air supply, if air is well choked off you get white smoke (you get black smoke if there is lots of air but too much fuel). So my first guess is you need a turbo, either rebuilt, cleaned or just plain a new turbo. First thing I would do is try to verify that boost reading, check the X-gauge programming, etc. Another clue is that you should get up to governed red line at WOt if you just let it go, so if you are not getting over 2900 rpm that is very low.

Edit: when my turbo was stuck and the vanes could not move, the VGT reading on the SGII meant nothing, it was all over the place. It had very odd readings. Which may itself be a clue, I guess...
 
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Also check the intercooler boots for rips or if they come off.
 
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Initially, problem as described:
Weak acceleration (no turbo?), slightly white exhaust, no upshift
BST = 2.8 / 3.5
VGT = 65 @ 800 rpm / 35 @ 2400 rpm

Eventually, problem cleared:
Strong acceleration (turbo obvious), snap-your-neck upshifts
WOT for 10 seconds = 60+mph, BST = 18 / 20

This happened the other day, then problem returned.

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I would pull the turbo and verify the VGT action is working, the vanes are not stuck. Also that it's just plain spinning OK, the turbines are still there and OK, etc. Definitely sounds like a turbo issue.

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"pull the turbo" - sounds innocent, but probably above my skill level.

Only YouTube video I've found was for a later year - and looked complicated.

Any simple tests that don't involve major maint ??
 
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Originally Posted by 11jjonn
"pull the turbo" - sounds innocent, but probably above my skill level.

Only YouTube video I've found was for a later year - and looked complicated.

Any simple tests that don't involve major maint ??
If you change your own air filter you can pull the turbo. Its really easy.
 
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Old 11-28-2014, 03:42 PM
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Hmmm....

I solved the Hi-Idle mod wiring mystery (Ford Tech said not possible), and did the Blue Spring - guess I'll regroup & give it a go this weekend.

Basically, just remove & check for obstruction/free wheeling?

Don't want to disassemble & have it turn out like that pocket watch project ! !
 
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If you have not done so already, check to see if your EGR requested and EGR actual are the same. ScanGauge will do that for you.

As mentioned above, your symptoms sound like a sticky EGR valve.

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I removed the EGR valve and "brushed it's teeth" about 4K ago (at 88K, nearly spotless).
Pretty sure I confirmed free movement upon reassembly.

Will check EGR readings next time on the road (before I tackle the turbo).
 
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Old 11-28-2014, 05:10 PM
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OK,
Programmed in EVD and EVM (desired/measured). They pretty much agree with each other.
I'm highly suspicious of the turbo - truck has 2 modes: accels like my John Deere garden tractor ---- or like a Triumph Bonneville 650 (when turbo functions).

More exploring in order.
 
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:31 PM
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Ya sure sounds like no boost like when boot pops off.
 


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