I see about the same MPG in my 5.0 F150 towing (about 4,000# cargo trailer) in 5th as 6th. Always 14.5-15 MPG at 70-75.

On a separate note, my 2013 F650 V10 got the same MPG as my 2011 F550 V10. The extra gear (6 SP/5 SP) helps with that, because the F650 weighed 2800# more.

 

Neither. If theyre getting rid of the 6.2, then make the super duty a diesel only truck. Those small engines are going to have to work harder to do the things a super duty needs to be able to do. Id like to see an ecoboost v6 pull 25000 and stay up to speed or close to it the whole time

 

The way you talk, sounds like the v6 is just a run of the mill car engine.
The ecoboost v6 has better HP and TQ than diesels only a few years ago.

 

I have a 2011 F-250 2wd with the 6.2 and 3.73 gears.
Gets 17 mpg empty.

I drive a 2013 F-150 x-cab 2wd with the 5.0 (and 3.31 rear gears) at work and it gets 21 mpg empty.

Not an exact apples-to apples comparison because the SD is heavier, and has alot more aerodynamic drag, but a 4 mpg difference between the 2 trucks is not much difference for me. ( I only put about 3K miles a year on my personal trucks)

I figured it up and even if gas went to $ 4.00 a gallon, it would only cost me 34 gallons more per year to drive the 6.2 which equals to $ 136.00 a year.

 

That's my monthly mileage

 

What he said!

 

6.2 EcoBoost

Nice.

8 lbs. of boost = 600 h.p.

 

I just think the smaller engine, even with the turbo, will have to work harder under load. And if its under a high amount of stress for a long period of time, the v6 will wear out sooner than a bigger engine

 

All things are not equal in the engine build, so the smaller engine works harder and wears out faster is wrong. The EcoBoost was built specifically to handle the stress and loads that occur using the twin turbos. I followed the EcoBoost roll out very close and even made a 10 hour drive to a Ford event where we had access to engineers. I am %100 confident the EcoBoost engine will last longer than the V8's in the truck.

 

2017 Engine lineup :
Base engine 5.0 , optional power : updated 6.2 with direct injection or V-6 EB and of course the 6.7 diesel.
10 speed auto standard.
(Note : new application of hydraulic power steering pump adapted for use on V6 and 5.0 TBD)

 

I am starting to consider buying a new truck for every day grocery getter and occasional horse trailer pulling. The debate about the current line up of engines is exactly what I have been pondering. The more I read, the more I think my bone stock 97 F250 with the 460 and only 101K on the clock is going to stay in my garage for another 10 years. I get 13MPG when I drive tamely and 10mpg in beast mode. I can pull anything and a 460 will go 300K. Sounds like these new engines are a solution to a problem that didn't exist.

 

I think the new engines are fantastic. Love the old 390 (still have one) sounds great, looks cool but it just doesn't compare to the drive-ability of the newer engines.

 

The problem that exists is CAFE and EPA. They will always be the elephant in the room.

 

OK, working harder is not the same thing as overloaded.
With enough engineering, you could build a 3 liter engine that could outperform and outlast a 6.8 v10.

Look at the engines of many decades ago, many were multiple tons and made 10-50 hp.
Should we just say screw it, and bolt one of those in a pickup?
They also only made hundreds of hours between sometimes major service.

of all the ecoboost failures you see on here, I haven't seen many that have anything to do with the displacement of the engine.
Yes, big displacement engines are fairly reliable and trouble free most of the time, but they just don't perform by todays standards, and they are gas guzzling turds.

Let me ask you this, what size of displacement of engine would you need, to meet or exceed the ecoboost 3.5 HP and TQ curve?
I'm not asking for one that's faster in a race, I'm after one that has the same towing and driving characteristics.
I'm fully aware of lots of v8's that rev high and make huge power, but show us one that has a TQ curve like the ecoboost.

The ecoboost is a good thing. Maybye it's not perfect, so what, no other engine ever has been. They all have issues and problems.
Now that it's 2015 all the older engines seem better cause all the issues are figured out for the most part, but they were trouble too for people when they were newer.

 

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