View Poll Results: 5.0L V8 or 3.5L EcoBoost to Replace 6.2L Super Duty Engine?
5.0L V8. The Super Duty should have a base V8.
73
68.22%
3.5L EcoBoost V6. It offers better capabilities.
34
31.78%
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Question of the Week: 5.0L V8 or 3.5L EcoBoost to Replace 6.2L Super Duty Engine?
#106
02-09-2015, 09:11 PM
Remember that oftentimes, price points dictate features. Ford tries to cover the most likely price points so that they can sell more trucks. They make their money using economies of scale.
The Ecoboost is a premium F150 choice. If they put it as a base engine in the F250, how are the people who just paid a premium price for the Ecoboost engine going to feel if there is no premium for it in the SuperDuty?
Marketing department would have a heart attack trying to explain that one. You can't screw your customers that way. The SuperDuty line doesn't sell as many trucks as the F150, so it makes no sense to have 3 engine choices.
The Ecoboost is a premium F150 choice. If they put it as a base engine in the F250, how are the people who just paid a premium price for the Ecoboost engine going to feel if there is no premium for it in the SuperDuty?
Marketing department would have a heart attack trying to explain that one. You can't screw your customers that way. The SuperDuty line doesn't sell as many trucks as the F150, so it makes no sense to have 3 engine choices.
#107
02-09-2015, 09:21 PM
Remember that oftentimes, price points dictate features. Ford tries to cover the most likely price points so that they can sell more trucks. They make their money using economies of scale.
The Ecoboost is a premium F150 choice. If they put it as a base engine in the F250, how are the people who just paid a premium price for the Ecoboost engine going to feel if there is no premium for it in the SuperDuty?
Marketing department would have a heart attack trying to explain that one. You can't screw your customers that way. The SuperDuty line doesn't sell as many trucks as the F150, so it makes no sense to have 3 engine choices.
The Ecoboost is a premium F150 choice. If they put it as a base engine in the F250, how are the people who just paid a premium price for the Ecoboost engine going to feel if there is no premium for it in the SuperDuty?
Marketing department would have a heart attack trying to explain that one. You can't screw your customers that way. The SuperDuty line doesn't sell as many trucks as the F150, so it makes no sense to have 3 engine choices.
#108
02-09-2015, 09:50 PM
#110
02-12-2015, 07:24 PM
Its amazing how many people dont realize it. an ecoboost will get better mileage than a 7.3 until you load it down
#111
02-15-2015, 06:40 PM
#112
02-16-2015, 07:27 AM
My two cents is, Ford already has a unreliable turbo diesel, the last thing Ford needs is a unreliable turbo gasser. I think my 6.2L works well in my truck, and I probably more heavy trailers than 90% of the diesel owners here on FTE, I just think the 6.2L in the SDs should be tuned the same as the 1/2 tons and say screw the duty cycle argument. Lastly, I never drove a new 5.0L, I have no clue on their power. But, a 5.0L, (302 c.i.d) seems to be a little small for a heavy duty pickup. Personally I'd like to see big blocks come back, and the manual transmissions. Ford could make a modern 460 like motor that makes big power and torque at much lower RPMs unlike the modern V8 and V10 engines. But, I believe big blocks and manual transmissions are long gone forever in Ford trucks.
#114
02-17-2015, 07:17 AM
#115
02-17-2015, 08:30 AM
True, but with the ecoboost, lower RPM's = more boost, so what I was getting at, is that maybe higher RPMs and less boost would net better fuel economy.
#116
02-17-2015, 09:28 AM
Even if the turbo does back off, the smaller motor will still be spinning faster which would use more fuel. Would it not?
#117
02-17-2015, 09:36 AM
#118
02-17-2015, 12:08 PM
That being said I'm not an expert on the ecoboost and I don't know what the computer would do.
#119
02-17-2015, 12:13 PM
And the size of an engine does not automatically mean it will last longer compared to a smaller motor.
It is perfectly possible using different metal alloys, technology, etc, to make a smaller faster turning motor last even longer than a larger slow turning one.
In general practice, usually larger engines have lasted longer and had lower end TQ, but this is comparing apples to apples, and the ecoboost is not an apple.
#120
02-17-2015, 12:25 PM
I've tried locking out 6th gear,several times, when towing the boat to see if the mileage would be any better. The mileage was actually worse. My boat weighs about 4,200 lbs. When I had my enclosed car hauler I always locked out 6th just to keep it from shifting too much. Loaded that trailer weighed about 7,000 lbs. No matter what I did with that trailer my gas mileage was poor.