There are none. Engines weren't numbered.

 

No such thing on our trucks. That serial numbering started later. So, no matching numbers for engine and truck.

EDIT: I see Ross types faster than I do.

 

OK understand -
How do you determine what series / year the engine is ?

Thanks,
Lance

 

Unless you take the engine apart, you can only make a generic classification. If your heads have the water outlets at the front of the heads, and the distributor on the passenger side-front of the engine, you have an "8BA" style engine. That's generally all you need to know. It is very rare to find an engine that is still composed of all the original parts. Back in the day, with the oils of the day, it was rare for an engine to make it past 50k miles without a complete overhaul.

 

The factory stamped a date code into the block, it is alongside the intake on the pass. side near the rear, where the intake leaves a gap on the top of the block. However, with that blue paint, it's a fair indicator of a 'factory rebuild', they were not rebuilds by Ford, but I don't recall the name of the company I was told that did them. When they did the rebuilds they defaced the original build date codes.

 

Ford utilized remanufacturing facilities all over the country. They had tags to ID the builder and new engine specs. Here's a few from a quick google search.

 

Well lookie there, I'm famous. That second one is mine. That company is still in business. I contacted them, but they don't have records back that far.

Yeah, over the years, lots of changes get made to our trucks. Finding a completely original is pretty rare. You have a nice looking truck. You sure want to have a clean title. Every state is different. When I transferred the title to my name, they didn't even think about looking at the truck.

Be sure to keep us updated on your work on this truck and show us lots of pictures.

 

There were Ford Authorized rebuilders all over. I know of 3 that were in Colorado alone. Ford would like you to believe they were "factory" but it really boiled down to use of all Ford OEM parts, not aftermarket. (Edit: you can see on the tags Wayne posted that one is from Hutchison, the other OKC; less than 200 miles apart)

I had an interesting chat with an 88-yr-old guy whose family owned one of the first Ford dealerships in NM, from the '20's on. He and his brothers were the mechanics the whole time, so he worked on everything from Model T's to Y-blocks and FE's. He said it was widely accepted from experience and acknowledged by Ford that Model T engines needed to be bored and the pistons/rings replaced after 7,500 miles. Model A (4-cyl) were good to almost 15,000. The 59-series flat V8's were good to 30,000, and 8BA's to 50,000. He didn't think the longer life was because the newer engines were that much better, it was just that oil science had progressed significantly and there were more paved roads. He felt the primary problems were oil quality, oil bath air filters, dirt roads, and crappy gas.

His family drove from Albuquerque to Chicago, on to Detroit and into Canada in a '29 Model A, in 1939. He said they didn't hit pavement until they crossed the Mississippi. Can you imagine?! It took them over a month on the road.

 

Ford actually did factory recondition V8s during the 1930s. This was part of Henry Ford's plan starting in 1932. Along with the regular production line in Dearborn there was an engine overhaul line. The planned replacement of engines in Fords is the reason the ID number was stamped on the transmission, not on the engine, from 1932 to 1948.

 

Thanks - I took Harley's Tip and checked the top of the engine passenger
side on the flat next to the intake. There are numbers stamped there
looks like 8 6 F next to it is stamped square with a 3 in the middle.
Ill post a picture in my album.

Lance

 

Lance,
the date stamp normally consists of a series of a letter, a one or two digit number, and a second letter. The first letter is the month. The number is the day, and the second letter is the last digit of the year.

The letter code is M=0, G=1, B=2, L=3, A=4, C=5, K=6, H=7, T=8, R=9, S=10, E=11, F=12.

G 20 B would be an engine manufactured on January 20, 1952.

The factory rebuilds are the ones that I found with the boxed numbers.

 

Joe

Thanks for the help - I see your in Crossville, TN. I am in sales and go past you pretty often on my way from Nashville to Knoxville - I love TN.

 

Give a holler sometime, can meet for coffee..... you might be a good candidate to consider attending Truckstock 2015

 

I can confirm this. They used whatever OEM parts that would work. I have a 239 and here are some part numbers of this Ford rebuilt engine:
Here are some specs on the motor:
Motor #: EBV94250
Cylinder Heads:
Driver side: EBV-B
Passenger side: ECG-C (Note this is a head for 272 so they do interchange)
Exhaust Manifold:
Drivers: ECE-9431
Passenger: ECE-9430-B
Intake Manifold: EBV94250

So I have a 239 head and a 272 head. It runs and it's a Y-Block. That's the important thing.