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Old 10-19-2014, 10:48 AM
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89 crown vic 5.0 in a 85 f150 efi

Anyone ever put a 89 crown vic 5.0 complete motor into a 85-86 f150 with efi?
Just curious what it would take.
Would The wire harness have to be changed?
I have 2 complete 89 mustang gt 5.0 wire harness's and a complete 95 f150 5.0
wire harness.
Im thinking change the crown vic intake to the f150 and run the mustang 5.0 computer.
Just curious i can get a complete 89 crown vic 5.0 intake to the pan with 79000 original miles i heard it run for $150
 
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If you like reading wiring diagrams and modifying wiring harnesses, I am sure it could be done. If it were me, I would take all the wires and engine dress off the crown vic till you got to the generic 302, and put all your truck harness/sensors and intake on the later engine. No thinking and no messing with wires on that type of swap.

P.S. If you think putting a mustang engine or fuel injection system in a truck is going to make the truck run like a mustang, it's not going to happen. Same with the crown vic stuff. The truck is just too heavy.
 
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yeah i figured that so im thinking the same thing just swapping the and putting all the truck stuff on it.
Im not looking to make the little truck run like a stang i just want the damn thing to run and drive as cheap as possible for the time being
If i decide to go make it a hot rod a fried of mine has a just finished 302 that he had turned into a 383 stroker motor,and a freshly rebuilt c6.
but I cannot afford to buy that right now my wife would kill me for sure....LOL
 
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If it were me, I would take all the wires and engine dress off the crown vic till you got to the generic 302, and put all your truck harness/sensors and intake on the later engine. No thinking and no messing with wires on that type of swap.
This is how it's done, there is no advantage in trying to fit the car EFI system in your truck and there is no worries of turning it into a hotrod with this motor either because the Crown Vic 5.0 is a 150hp boat anchor, a direct result of a restrictive intake, microscopic camshaft, and a cork like exhaust.
 
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yeah hot rod is got to be on hold until after new years when i have my 4x4 going and can park the 2wd until spring its getting repainted and refreshed so great time to make it a little faster.
that is if its ok with the wife
 
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Going ahead with the swap

Got the crown Vic 5.0 complete and a new Weiand 4 barrel delivered to my door for $175
Now pulling everything off down to the block.
And putting all truck stuff on it.
While I have it on the stand should I put a cam in it?
Any recommendations on a cam.?
Someone said to go with a set of gt 40 heads?
Or go with a 4 barrel carb?
But if I go carb. Where do I get a conversion kit at for the tranny shift cable?
And I also have a set of factory mustang 5.0 headers I'm thinking of installing.
Just trying to put a little pep in her step in a low budget!
 
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First figure out if it has a roller cam in it or a flat tappet, and then install either the F4TE (Explorer) roller cam or the Comp cams 31-255-5 flat tappet.
 
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Thanks for that but if I change the cam will that change the firing order to a HO fire order.
It shouldn't but I just had someone tell me that
 
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It might, but just change the sparkplugs wires around to match the new firing order. I would not worry about the cam, I would worry about the timing chain. You will be changing the oil pan to a truck oil pan correct? So while the pan is off, stick your finger up in the front and see how much play is in the timing chain and sprockets.
 
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Yes will be changing everything over including pan oil pickup
Think I will throw a new oil pump at it their not very expensive clean out the screen.
Have to change the timing cover to use the 85 water pump and v-belt accessories.
Definitely looking at timing chain just was thinking of a cam while I have the intake and timing cover off just to wake the motor up. And I have a set of mustang factory headers I'm going to throw on. And go dual exhaust. And I also have a egr delete kit I bought some time ago with the plate and cheat sensor. I just can't see putting dirty air back into the motor.
Just trying to do the most inexpensive things I can afford to do while it's on the stand. Wish I could afford a set of gt 40 heads
Couple of guys I work with said I should spend the money they would make a huge difference. I personally don't know.
I know I have a 89 5.0 HO in my wife's mustang and that motor is completely stock and it is fun to drive and has plenty of power
And I'm hoping this 150 hp crown Vic motor will scoot this little 2wd short bed down the road
 
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ok got the motor on the stand and stripped down getting a new melling high volume oil pump, new cloyes double roller timing chain a complete gasket set.
found some gt40 heads which are at the machine shop getting checked out and new valve job done.
had the rotating assembly checked out and is in like new condition so no work to lower end work needed.
now for a camshaft....I was recommended a Ford E303 but I am keeping the FI on the truck and from what Ive read the E303 is recommended for carbed motors.
Any ideas on a cam for this thing? Its a roller lifter motor.
And thinking about going with some Ford racing 1.6 roller rockers.
and of course a nice set of crane hardened pushrods.
I think Im going in the right direction but not positive on the cam.
 
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ok got the motor on the stand and stripped down getting a new melling high volume oil pump, new cloyes double roller timing chain a complete gasket set.
found some gt40 heads which are at the machine shop getting checked out and new valve job done.
had the rotating assembly checked out and is in like new condition so no work to lower end work needed.
now for a camshaft....I was recommended a Ford E303 but I am keeping the FI on the truck and from what Ive read the E303 is recommended for carbed motors.
Any ideas on a cam for this thing? Its a roller lifter motor.
And thinking about going with some Ford racing 1.6 roller rockers.
and of course a nice set of crane hardened pushrods.
I think Im going in the right direction but not positive on the cam.
I don't really know what you want to do with the truck, I also don't know a whole lot about roller cams, but you couldn't really go wrong with the Comp 260HR for a daily driver. Also, what is the part number for the Cloyes timing chain you used, it isn't C-3057K is it? I sure hope not! I used one of those in my 351W and it stretched 4* in 600 miles. Went to a Cloyes true roller and no problems.
 
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I thought the E303 was computer friendly? Do some searching with the early fuel injected mustangs in mind(before they started using mass air). If it will work for them, it should work for your truck, though it's not the ideal truck cam.

Why are you using hardened pushrods? That's just a waste of money unless you are going to get the heads converted to a adjustable valve train and are using pushrod guide plates
 
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I thought the E303 was computer friendly?
Right in the notes for this cam it says "Requires Mass Air EFI", none of the Ford alphabet cams are compatible with the SD system or are they a good choice for a truck engine in general. A good cam would be the comp 35-512-8.
 
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Cam Question

ok got the heads back from the machine shop and there all freshened up

I have a chance to get a Elgin Cam which states its for a 86 and up 5.0 HO
.450 lift intake,.475 exhaust .050 duration intake 204 exhaust 214
new bearings with it and gaskets for $120.
Is that a good deal?
Will this cam work for the truck?
just wanting a daily driver with a bit more pep.
not concerned with gas mileage.
Is Elgin a good brand never heard of them myself
 


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