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I remember playing with a 445 on my DD2000 and the crane #521 hyd roller made the best torque curve. I think it was making 500ft lbs at like 2k rpm or something stupid like that. Its been like 4 years so I can't remember the exact numbers. But at least check out the #521.
I'm building a 445 too BTW. But I'm thinking about going to a solid can now....
I'm building a 445 too BTW. But I'm thinking about going to a solid can now....
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I remember playing with a 445 on my DD2000 and the crane #521 hyd roller made the best torque curve. I think it was making 500ft lbs at like 2k rpm or something stupid like that. Its been like 4 years so I can't remember the exact numbers. But at least check out the #521.
I'm building a 445 too BTW. But I'm thinking about going to a solid can now....
I'm building a 445 too BTW. But I'm thinking about going to a solid can now....
#18
Well little update.....I think family stuff is somewhat back to normal so it's soon time to play again. Shortly after my last post I did order a hyd roller cam and lifters from Survival. However I have yet to see them! I did talk to Barry today and he said Comp Cams is the holdup and my cam should arrive this week. I think it's going to take longer to gather all the parts rather than build this thing.
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Interesting. I looked on the Comp Cam site and they don't specify a hydraulic roller cam for the FE. I've been looking at the Lunati and a custom grind for my 410. Crane is also a possibility.
I wrote to Barry on the email on his website, and for the second time he hasn't responded. Why put your email on the site if you won't answer?
I wrote to Barry on the email on his website, and for the second time he hasn't responded. Why put your email on the site if you won't answer?
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Interesting. I looked on the Comp Cam site and they don't specify a hydraulic roller cam for the FE. I've been looking at the Lunati and a custom grind for my 410. Crane is also a possibility.
I wrote to Barry on the email on his website, and for the second time he hasn't responded. Why put your email on the site if you won't answer?
I wrote to Barry on the email on his website, and for the second time he hasn't responded. Why put your email on the site if you won't answer?
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I found this cam on ebay, and searched the number on their site:P/N 33-432-9, Grind Number XR280HR. They don't show it if you search by engine type.
I gave up on Survival, I'll just figure it out as best I can. I'm thinking of going roller because once you go to all the trouble of putting it in, why not get the best bang you can. It is only a few hundred bucks difference in the end. I also understand you can get a more aggressive profile and hold on to more low end performance.
I gave up on Survival, I'll just figure it out as best I can. I'm thinking of going roller because once you go to all the trouble of putting it in, why not get the best bang you can. It is only a few hundred bucks difference in the end. I also understand you can get a more aggressive profile and hold on to more low end performance.
#22
That's sorta what I was thinking. However I probably coulda just used a hyd flat tappet cam and got the same result. The part I like is no break in and can run whatever oil I want.
That cam woulda been a little small for me I think. I'm not sure about the dual pattern either but what do I know lol. I'm hoping the one I picked works out.
That cam woulda been a little small for me I think. I'm not sure about the dual pattern either but what do I know lol. I'm hoping the one I picked works out.
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I'm not planning on ordering that one either, but I have now found a Comp Cam Hydraulic Roller for an FE, so I know they exist. I am considering a Lunati custom grind. I'm looking for good low end torque with longer legs. I've posted my rear wheel dyno a few times, I have 330 lbs-ft at the wheels, but the peak is very low and it runs out of gas by 4500. I want longer legs but I like the low end grunt. Looking at a roller to hold onto the low end and get more stretch.
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I kinda felt the same way but after talking to him he kinda redeemed himself. He's a decent guy to talk to. I do know your best bet of getting a hold oh him is like 4:30a or so. That's when he answers most of his questions people have or really late. I don't think he sleeps.
That grind I picked might actually be good for you too.
That grind I picked might actually be good for you too.
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Do you have a grind number or the cam specs? I am thinking hard on it.
What I have under consideration is a custom grind as follows:
Lobe Separation: 112
Intake Centreline: 108
Valve timing at .006" of lift:
Exhaust 51 and -1 degrees, Intake 7 and 43 degrees.
Overlap: 6 degrees
Duration at 0.050: 230/230
Valve Lift: .568
Lobe Lift: .328
This is a proposal from Lunati's tech support for a custom grind, so I don't have a part number.
What I have under consideration is a custom grind as follows:
Lobe Separation: 112
Intake Centreline: 108
Valve timing at .006" of lift:
Exhaust 51 and -1 degrees, Intake 7 and 43 degrees.
Overlap: 6 degrees
Duration at 0.050: 230/230
Valve Lift: .568
Lobe Lift: .328
This is a proposal from Lunati's tech support for a custom grind, so I don't have a part number.
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#28
Barry is a great guy but is covered up with work.
Blair Patrick Enterprises is another great source for FE information & parts, (423) 837-1514. There is also Brent Lynkins at Lynkins Motorsports, (502) 759-1431 & Tom Lucas at FE Specialties, (916) 339-0427. These guys can get you all the same stuff Barry has access to.
Blair Patrick Enterprises is another great source for FE information & parts, (423) 837-1514. There is also Brent Lynkins at Lynkins Motorsports, (502) 759-1431 & Tom Lucas at FE Specialties, (916) 339-0427. These guys can get you all the same stuff Barry has access to.
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Barry is a great guy but is covered up with work.
Blair Patrick Enterprises is another great source for FE information & parts, (423) 837-1514. There is also Brent Lynkins at Lynkins Motorsports, (502) 759-1431 & Tom Lucas at FE Specialties, (916) 339-0427. These guys can get you all the same stuff Barry has access to.
Blair Patrick Enterprises is another great source for FE information & parts, (423) 837-1514. There is also Brent Lynkins at Lynkins Motorsports, (502) 759-1431 & Tom Lucas at FE Specialties, (916) 339-0427. These guys can get you all the same stuff Barry has access to.
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Do you have a grind number or the cam specs? I am thinking hard on it.
What I have under consideration is a custom grind as follows:
Lobe Separation: 112
Intake Centreline: 108
Valve timing at .006" of lift:
Exhaust 51 and -1 degrees, Intake 7 and 43 degrees.
Overlap: 6 degrees
Duration at 0.050: 230/230
Valve Lift: .568
Lobe Lift: .328
This is a proposal from Lunati's tech support for a custom grind, so I don't have a part number.
What I have under consideration is a custom grind as follows:
Lobe Separation: 112
Intake Centreline: 108
Valve timing at .006" of lift:
Exhaust 51 and -1 degrees, Intake 7 and 43 degrees.
Overlap: 6 degrees
Duration at 0.050: 230/230
Valve Lift: .568
Lobe Lift: .328
This is a proposal from Lunati's tech support for a custom grind, so I don't have a part number.
I called and spoke to Barry's helper so we'll see where my cam is I guess. The lifters seem like they are good quality at least.