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2015 CCSB 6.2. 4.30s - Nowhere to be found

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Old 10-01-2014, 10:11 AM
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Yea, I thought for sure there would be a difference in the performance. The truck is old and tired.

After driving with 4.10s for a few years, 3.73s just made more sense for what I do. Its my only vehicle so I kind of went with a mix of comfort and towing the 4x4. That and I was going to go crazy having to wait 8+ weeks for the special order to come in, haha.

My overall recent experience with finding trucks with 4.30s was impossible. There were zero. Hell, I think I found the only CCLB 6.2 XLT in New England that isn't white on the lot.
 
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:53 AM
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You can always buy the truck now and have shop change the gears.
Probably would cost $1,500 for a 4WD.
I might have that done myself as I keep thinking I should have ordered the 4:30.
I don't want to spend the next 7 years wishing I did!
 
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dkf
Your 96' is not really relevent to my comments, different engines. The 99'up is what I was referring too, where you are looking at running around 2250 rpm at 65mph with 4.30s in OD on the older SDs. Newer trucks are even less rpm due to OD ratio and tire size.

Sounds like you are not getting into overdrive and/or you have TQ lockup issues. Overdrive ratio on the E4OD is .71.
Maybe has has a c6 trans. According to a quick google search the c6 was available until 1996. I know that a friend has one in a 94 for sure.
 
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You may want to look into the "wide-track" option which is available on the F350 CCLB?
Shorter turning radius and larger ball joints that should last longer.
 
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You may want to look into the "wide-track" option which is available on the F350 CCLB?
Shorter turning radius and larger ball joints that should last longer.
On a drw maybe
 
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On a drw maybe
True that. He did want a SRW didn't he?
If I were going to buy a new one I would still do it again like I did on a new 1999 and took the extended fenders off and made it a SRW that I could transform when I wanted in a couple of hours. I did it back then to get a Dana 60 front axle instead of the 50. I would want the larger ball joints that badly.
 
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Originally Posted by JM96F250
Wow, that's not bad at all.

My 96 is at like 4000RPM at 55/60 with the 4.10s.

Oh well. I'm fine with the 3.73s. It lugged my 4x4 and trailer without issue. That's what matters most to me. I was thinking there would be a much bigger difference in RPMs.

I gotta off topic this, WHAT? I had a 1997 F250 HD reg cab 4x4 5.8 and E4OD with 4.10 gears and even with the baby stock 235 tires I only turned 2150rpm at 65mph on the highway...... jumping up to a 285 74r16 dropped it to 2k at 65mph and that truck got a steady 11mpg and I drove that truck hard and fast!

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Originally Posted by 92f150I6
Maybe has has a c6 trans. According to a quick google search the c6 was available until 1996. I know that a friend has one in a 94 for sure.
I did not think the C6 was even available in that year. No overdrive and a non locking TQ would make the rpm be quite high.(can't rep you again right now)


Edit: Found an old thread. Looks like they made such a beast.(I don't know why) Maybe Ford had a good number of left over C6 trans on hand.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...g-problem.html
 
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperDutyScaler
I gotta off topic this, WHAT? I had a 1997 F250 HD reg cab 4x4 5.8 and E4OD with 4.10 gears and even with the baby stock 235 tires I only turned 2150rpm at 65mph on the highway...... jumping up to a 285 74r16 dropped it to 2k at 65mph and that truck got a steady 11mpg and I drove that truck hard and fast!
Not sure on the E4OD or the C6. Its a beat up truck. I want to say its has 215s since they were the first things I found on CL. I traded a clapped out XJ and I got the truck and $300 for it. But yea, on the highway once you hit 55, there were no more gears and that motor would just whine and whine. If I wasn't at 4k, I had to be close to 3k. That and the exhaust is so loud that probably made it seem worse than it was.

Who knows.
 
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Thanks for all of the replies guys. I apologize for the apparent absence. I was out of town for a couple of days for work and didn't have a chance to get back onto the forum. I definitely want a SRW truck, I am just trying to decide between ordering a 6.2 with the 4.30 gears and buying a diesel that is already on the lot. I am not sure that I want to wait the 2-4 months for a truck, even if it is built exactly the way I want it. I think that the anticipation would drive me insane.

It has been suggested that I could buy a gasser with the 3.73 gears and get it regeared. I am not strictly opposed to that, but it only works for me if the GCWR isn't actually posted on the door sticker along with the GVWR. I would really hate to be towing that 11k pound trailer and have something happen only to have the insurance company come back and say that they wouldn't cover anything because I was over my GCWR.

Can you guys with both the 3.73 factory gears and the 4.30 gears look at the door stickers on your trucks to see if the GCWR is posted there, and if so, what is posted in each case?
 
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Here is the 2015 Tow Guide.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...Tgde_May19.pdf

3.73 GCWR = 19,000 lbs
4.30 GCWR = 22,000 lbs

If you get a regear at the Ford dealer ship you are easily over $2k+. You can get better prices from a non dealer shop but they will most likely use non OE gear sets. Not a bit deal if they are quality parts.

You are better off ordering what you want and waiting IMO but th edecision is your.
 
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Old 10-02-2014, 11:59 PM
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CAFE averages

"I find it odd that all of the gassers are coming with the 3.73 gears, but maybe others are more concerned with fuel mileage than towing capacity?"


The manufacturer needs to keep their CAFE averages high.
Weight rating on door does not matter to insurance adjuster as he records the VIN with the "as built" information. Trying to get it recertified by changing gears is a burden of proof you may not want to toy with.


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Old 10-03-2014, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Super Duty DJ

Can you guys with both the 3.73 factory gears and the 4.30 gears look at the door stickers on your trucks to see if the GCWR is posted there, and if so, what is posted in each case?
Nowhere on my sticker or any other truck I have owned was the GCWR posted just the GVWR, in my case 13900 because it's a DRW. The axle weight for both axles is also there but nothing else as far as weights.

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Old 10-03-2014, 11:18 AM
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Thanks guys. I think I am going to end up ordering a truck.
 


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