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Shell T5 10-30 + Archoil 9100 ...Just back from 2200 mile unexpected trip

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Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
The closer I got to 5K on both, I noticed the power falling off. Throttle response and mileage progressively got worse. I decided to try Mobil 1 5w40 and my truck seems to like it as it's more consistent throughout the interval.

Both my trucks have always been this way:

-Neither one likes Motorcraft, anything Shell Rotella, or Valvoline.

-The 7.3 prefers Chevron Delo, Castrol Tection Extra, Mystic 15W40
-The 6.0 prefers Mobil 1 5W40 so far
I had the same results with T6. Triple T 15/40 did better but didn't like cooler weather. The last 5000 miles I ran Mobile 1 and it stayed quiet the entire cycle without Archoil 9100, idle rpm oil pressure stayed the same also. This change I added the 9100 to Mobile 1 to see how it does. I'm waiting for the results from Blackstone to see if the viscosity matches what I am hearing.
 
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It appeared to me, when I used it, that the Archoil reduces the viscosity somewhat.
 
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My SUS vis was 61.9 and the cSt vis was 10.75 with the Mobil 1 and no Archoil in the oil, with TripleT and Archoil the numbers were 65.5 and 11.74.
 
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A 61.9 / 10.75 viscosity is unusual IMO. In all of the UOA I have done and all the oils tried, I have never seen any 5W40 that low after 5000 miles (had a 63.4 and a 64.2 w/ Valvoline PBE, one 63.4 w/ T6 and ZDDP, and a 63.3 w/ TDT and Archoil at 6k miles - all others over 66). What oil did you run before the Mobil 1 oil change? One theory I have heard discussed though is that the early HPOP was harder on oil than the later ones - I wonder.
 
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I am skeptical of the report, the idle hot oil pressure was still the same as new oil and the engine was quiet. I'm waiting for sample bottles from another company and will see what they show.
 
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I run Royal Purple 20W-50 synthetic motor oil in my X since I bought it with 13K on the clock. It now has 120K on the clock. No HPOP, injector or turbo replacement. I have RP tranny fluid, Synchromax in the transfer case and 75W-140 Max Gear oil in the diff. All have AR9100 for the past 6 months. I normally change motor oil at 10K to 12K intervals.

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I have never seen any 5W40 that low after 5000 miles
And 5000 miles on any synthetic 5W-40 oil is really not much......
 
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It's funny you say that cause my truck is the same way with t6. When I get somewhat close to 4k or so. The truck sounds bad, sticktion starts and lacks power. Are you running the delvac 1 esp?
My old motor was this way and I always changed it by starting/stiction/injector "issues" rather than mileage. It liked 15w40 Motorcraft better than any synthetic so that's what I ran. This motor isn't that way at all. If I didn't watch the mileage I wouldn't know that the oil had 5K on it at all.
 
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My old motor was this way and I always changed it by starting/stiction/injector "issues" rather than mileage. It liked 15w40 Motorcraft better than any synthetic so that's what I ran. This motor isn't that way at all. If I didn't watch the mileage I wouldn't know that the oil had 5K on it at all.
It's funny, I swear some of these motors have individual personalities.
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
It appeared to me, when I used it, that the Archoil reduces the viscosity somewhat.
That was something I was concerned about, seeing how the Archoil is just a tad thicker than water. But then 1 qt of it with 13 qts of 30 weight may not make much difference.

For an oil sample...The viscosity at 100C....is that the upper viscosity #? (as in 30 on the 10-30?)
 
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This might help

Archoil 9100 mixes 16oz to 15 qts oil not 32oz.
 

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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
My old motor was this way and I always changed it by starting/stiction/injector "issues" rather than mileage. It liked 15w40 Motorcraft better than any synthetic so that's what I ran. This motor isn't that way at all. If I didn't watch the mileage I wouldn't know that the oil had 5K on it at all.
Yeah this next change I'm Gona run delvac esp. And see if it likes that any better
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
Have you done oil analysis in the past? It would be interesting to see your viscosity number after 5000 miles.
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No I haven't done any before, but that's a great idea.

I'll send in a virgin sample as well, so we can compare new T5 10-30 with my truck's T5 10-30 + Archoil 9100 sample.
Here's an oil sample report on the oil with 4206 miles on it. I blacked out info that did not apply to this sample. Also, I did not get a virgin sample, I had none left to test..... besides, I'm sure there are some on the internet somewhere....
 
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I have a t6 and archoil report coming in soon if you all want to see that, it will have 6000 on it
 
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The viscosity of virgin T5 10W30 is somewhere around 11.5 to 11.7 cSt. So a 4200 mile viscosity of 9.8 cSt, shows some significant shearing - almost down to a 20 wt (9.29 cSt). I assume that you did not have any significant fuel dilution?

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...5_#Post1791357
 


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