Best backup camera package?
#16
camera dudes
mounting camera in the early style tailgate handle may work, better check first to make sure u can see the hitch (i think that was your main reason) may have to slant camera down. i think i would get one of the lic plate cams as they can usually be tipped as needed
or get the 08 up tailgate that had a handle or emblem cam option
then you get a better looking tailgate and an integrated camera too
as for rig with v tail gate i recently bought a tail gate from a guy that put on a 5 th wheel tailgate and he found a bracket that held the OEM camera to the new 5th wheel tail gate. so no new wiring necessary as oem not use RCA like many aftermarket ones do
i have heard from good sources that the oem cams are usually better too
mounting camera in the early style tailgate handle may work, better check first to make sure u can see the hitch (i think that was your main reason) may have to slant camera down. i think i would get one of the lic plate cams as they can usually be tipped as needed
or get the 08 up tailgate that had a handle or emblem cam option
then you get a better looking tailgate and an integrated camera too
as for rig with v tail gate i recently bought a tail gate from a guy that put on a 5 th wheel tailgate and he found a bracket that held the OEM camera to the new 5th wheel tail gate. so no new wiring necessary as oem not use RCA like many aftermarket ones do
i have heard from good sources that the oem cams are usually better too
#17
Amazon.com : BOYO VTB44MC 4.3-Inch Digital LCD Rear View Mirror Monitor and Camera Combination : Vehicle Backup Cameras : Car Electronics
This seems like my best option. I've learned that it only comes with one camera, but has a second input for installing second camera. Not sure which camera I need to order for separate camera and not sure if mounting this in my tailgate key-cylinder hole will be low enough to see the hitch.
Also concerned that this camera system has no IR illumination, so it will be useless at night. Might have to find IR LED setup as well.. too much to research, too little time.
Thanks everyone, I'll review this thread in the morning and get back to the drawing board. It's been a.... uh.... 17hr day so far, and I have a few more hours of work to do.
#18
I think the best solution is to duplicate the factory-type nav installation by replacing the factory stereo head unit with a nav unit that has a plug-in for a backup camera. You'll end up with a much bigger screen, better visibility, and it all disappears when you're not using it. (The screen retracts on single-DIN units) It also has the advantage of including other features you may enjoy, like Bluetooth, so you can legally use your cell phone in many states, navigation, and the ability to watch DVD movies (handy for kids or grandkids, and not too bad when you're stuck waiting for the wife at the mall.) I installed these in several former trucks with cameras mounted in the rear license plate frame. They've been perfect, and you've got them even when the tailgate is removed. (Not all camera/screens are equal, so make sure to buy the lens/view you want.)
The full-blown imaginary retail price on these packages is $1000 or more, but they depreciate VERY quickly when new, more advanced units come out. I paid about $350 for a "demo" single-DIN Pioneer unit (used) at a local stereo store I know and trust. The license-plate camera was another $80, I think -- but then you end up with a solution that kills five birds with one stone. (I wanted an older head unit anyway, because it's much harder to defeat the safety features in the newer ones. Some have gyros/motion-sensors which prevent you from making nav inputs or watching movies while the vehicle is moving. I wouldn't do either, but I have no problem with my wife doing both while I drive, so I've disabled the safety blocks on my last three aftermarket units and two factory units.)
The full-blown imaginary retail price on these packages is $1000 or more, but they depreciate VERY quickly when new, more advanced units come out. I paid about $350 for a "demo" single-DIN Pioneer unit (used) at a local stereo store I know and trust. The license-plate camera was another $80, I think -- but then you end up with a solution that kills five birds with one stone. (I wanted an older head unit anyway, because it's much harder to defeat the safety features in the newer ones. Some have gyros/motion-sensors which prevent you from making nav inputs or watching movies while the vehicle is moving. I wouldn't do either, but I have no problem with my wife doing both while I drive, so I've disabled the safety blocks on my last three aftermarket units and two factory units.)
#19
Last thought: when I hook up trailers by myself without camera assistance I can usually get it done in about five minutes or less. The trick is to get out and check progress/position several times starting at about six feet, where you still have room to make correction.
The license plate light and backup lights on the truck are more than ample to illuminate a five or six foot radius behind the hitch... You GOTTA be able to get that close without assistance,
The license plate light and backup lights on the truck are more than ample to illuminate a five or six foot radius behind the hitch... You GOTTA be able to get that close without assistance,
#20
I put a small strip of orange reflective tape on my pin box to help line it up.
Also, two things that I can use to judge direction when backing and looking in my center rear view mirror...
the mounting holes for my center headrest I took out is a nice gauge to judge my direction until I get close,
then I use the printed safety glass warning on the center sliding glass and put it JUST to the right of the pinbox and I'm usually VERY close...
now height, you have to get out to judge... but our 5er has a 'return to hitch height' on the leveling system that takes most of the guess work out of that...
on my previous 5er I put one of those memory bubble levels that you set when you first unhook so you know where to go back to -->
Also, two things that I can use to judge direction when backing and looking in my center rear view mirror...
the mounting holes for my center headrest I took out is a nice gauge to judge my direction until I get close,
then I use the printed safety glass warning on the center sliding glass and put it JUST to the right of the pinbox and I'm usually VERY close...
now height, you have to get out to judge... but our 5er has a 'return to hitch height' on the leveling system that takes most of the guess work out of that...
on my previous 5er I put one of those memory bubble levels that you set when you first unhook so you know where to go back to -->
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#23
Amazon.com : BOYO VTB44MC 4.3-Inch Digital LCD Rear View Mirror Monitor and Camera Combination : Vehicle Backup Cameras : Car Electronics
This is the unit I am looking at now... seems like the best option currently available.
This is the unit I am looking at now... seems like the best option currently available.
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#26
I ordered the rearview monitor I had linked previously and also ordered a license plate frame camera, hopefully I'm covered.
But if this isht catches fire in my truck there will be some serious retribution that will take place. Hopefully we don't have any sun spots or solar flares or witchcraft going on... I simply don't have time for it.
Will post pics once I have a chance to install all of this.
#27
I'd certainly like to hear that story...
I ordered the rearview monitor I had linked previously and also ordered a license plate frame camera, hopefully I'm covered.
But if this isht catches fire in my truck there will be some serious retribution that will take place. Hopefully we don't have any sun spots or solar flares or witchcraft going on... I simply don't have time for it.
Will post pics once I have a chance to install all of this.
I ordered the rearview monitor I had linked previously and also ordered a license plate frame camera, hopefully I'm covered.
But if this isht catches fire in my truck there will be some serious retribution that will take place. Hopefully we don't have any sun spots or solar flares or witchcraft going on... I simply don't have time for it.
Will post pics once I have a chance to install all of this.
heres the one that caught fire, its just the face, it burst into smoke pouring out the cd hole as i had the face off it. thats why the face is still good.
#28
I'm researching iphone/android smartphone remote back-up cams. I hook up an average of 2 times per week so I cant justify spending the money on a new head unit, nor do I want a stand beside monitor in my way for such little use. I figure opening a bluetooth remote cam app and watching on my phone (which i always have on me) is the least expensive and least obtrusive method there is. Now just to find a reputable product...
#30
I'm researching iphone/android smartphone remote back-up cams. I hook up an average of 2 times per week so I cant justify spending the money on a new head unit, nor do I want a stand beside monitor in my way for such little use. I figure opening a bluetooth remote cam app and watching on my phone (which i always have on me) is the least expensive and least obtrusive method there is. Now just to find a reputable product...
boy i really like that idea, let me know what you dig up.