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Old 08-25-2014, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DCP
They did make F-350 chassis cab duallies that were factory 4x4. I know a guy who has a '79 that is a factory 4x4.
wrong!

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That would be a Marmon-Harrington aftermarket 4x4 system. No F600 came strait from the factory as a 4x4.
This is a correct statement...pre-'1959

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Google Marmon-Herrington and then you can educate yourself.
with all do respect, I believe you need the education...and start with some factual literature please!

From the 1978 shop manual volume1 group15 axles and driveshafts
 
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Tag from front F600 4x4 drive axle

 
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Originally Posted by 78_f800crewcab4x4
No.
It's in my 1978 and 1979 ford truck shop manuals. Factory with Rockwells front and rear.

1978 truck shop manual. Volume 1 chassis. It's in part 14-22 front suspension.

Also, there is a sales brochure entitled bronco's big brother: f600 4x4.

You go educate yourself, all these trucks use Rockwell units not MH axles. Those were installed on the bigger trucks.

Ford used a Rockwell t-223-c1 transfer case and an f106 front axle.
I don't care if it's in your service manual or in a brochure, it's still a Marmon-Herrington conversion. When Napco made the first 4x4 systems for the Ford pickup in 1959, Ford never called their trucks a Napco 4x4 but, the Ford 4x4 system was still shown in all of the Ford service manuals. BTW, Marmon-Herrington is the name of the conversion company, not a brand of axles. Marmon-Herrington is still in business, give them a call if you don't believe me. Once again, go educate yourself.
 
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Easy, easy gentlemen. Let's keep this friendly.
 
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I got some bad information from a Ford guy that I trusted. I did my own research and found out that Ford never made a factory 4x4 f-350 dually in the '70's. The 4x4 F-350 dually conversions from the '70's, they used a Dana 60 front axle.
 
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Easy, easy gentlemen. Let's keep this friendly.
Remaining calm!
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I don't care if it's in your service manual or in a brochure, it's still a Marmon-Herrington conversion. When Napco made the first 4x4 systems for the Ford pickup in 1959, Ford never called their trucks a Napco 4x4 but, the Ford 4x4 system was still shown in all of the Ford service manuals. BTW, Marmon-Herrington is the name of the conversion company, not a brand of axles. Marmon-Herrington is still in business, give them a call if you don't believe me. Once again, go educate yourself.
MH and Ford were together long before '59!
Napco wasn't the 1st to convert Fords, but yes, Ford did also use Napco and those equipped had Napco badges!
 
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BTW, Marmon-Herrington is the name of the conversion company, not a brand of axles. Once again, go educate yourself.
Incorrect, they do make axles. They also use other brands to make conversions. That's all the info I have. Ford shop manuals. It's up to the reader to determine which hairs they want to split between factory and conversion.

And stop that.
 
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i work for the sister company to Marmon Harrington they are very much still in business and yes they have there own axles and in early years they did use some different axles

nowadays they pretty much just build 12-22k axles for class 6-8 trucks
 
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Well, all I can say is how I remember it:


No F-350 4X4's until 1979, and even then only available as a SRW pickup.
No 460's in 4X4's until 1983.
No dually's available 'factory' before 1980.


If you wanted a crew cab dually 4X4, you had to see your Chevy or GMC dealer.


F-600 4X4's were available from the factory with Rockwell axles starting in the late 70's, at least by 1978.


Marmon-Herrington has done 4X4 conversions of light and medium duty Fords since the 1940's. They do make their own axles, usually 'M-H' is cast in the front hubs.


Coleman also did 4X4 conversions of Ford medium and heavy trucks.


Napco did some Ford conversions in the 50's, but was more known for Chevy, GMC, and Studebaker conversions.
 
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