Super duty modify 5.4 or swap?
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Also the trick flow heads have better detonation resistance and better flow across a wider range, where as the ported pi heads seem to sacrifice low end for top end. Also I have experience with the effects of dropping compression, and 290-300 rwhp may not sound like much but it is a nice improvement over stock which is 210-216 rwhp. I know that sounds low but I have only found 2 stock dyno's and that is their results.
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Put a lightning blower on it and be done with it.
how to install a lightning or HD take off supercharger on a NA 5.4 f-150 - F150online Forums
how to install a lightning or HD take off supercharger on a NA 5.4 f-150 - F150online Forums
Unfortunately it isn't that straight forward. At first glance it would seem that the Super Duties have more room under the hood than the F-150 does, but the arrangement of that space is the issue. The Lightning/HD supercharger setup is too tall to fit under the cowl on the Super Duty without a 2-3" body lift. Because the engine sits farther back in the engine bay for the Super Duties than it does in the 150, the intake snorkel for the supercharger hits the cowl rather than sitting in front of it like in the 150.
I think that the OP has what sounds like a pretty sweet build in mind for the 5.4 and I am looking forward to seeing how it works out for him. I also think that his proposed build will have better longevity with teh kind of use that his SD is likely to see than converting an NA motor to forced induction withoout all of the necessary mods to the bottom end.
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No bottom end upgrades are needed. The stock internals can take 400whp all day long with a good tune. Would a Whipple fit better? It moves the blower intake from the top to the side.
If you read the posted thread others have put lightning blowers on superdutys. Maybe it requires a taller hood for clearance?
If you read the posted thread others have put lightning blowers on superdutys. Maybe it requires a taller hood for clearance?
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Well I can not find a factory replacement short block. The local ford dealer said $3000 or $3500 ( I don't remember which) for a rebuilt long block but no short locks are available. I guess I will just go with a built shortblock. JE makes a zero deck piston for the 5.4 with a 27.7 cc dish for proper quench. Some good H-beams, and good bearings and rings. Top it off with trick flow heads and MHS' stage 1 trick flow NA cam is what was recommended for my application from MHS' owner. Then the JBA cat4ward headers and true dual 2.5" exhaust with strait through mufflers should be good till I have time to make my own headers. The owner of MHS said that good gains have been seen going with a zero deck setup on the 5.4. Also the Hardballer intake, 42 lb/hr injectors, 75 mm TB, and lightning MAF, new fuel pump, and a 3000rpm stall converter. I should see gains across the board and will keep y'all updated after I finish the build.
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Yes I looked into that and apparently the 3v v10 is a difficult swap. Also they are treated like gold at the junk yards I have checked. Plus I just don't like the v10 because they seem to be rev limited. I read where someone stated it was because of its uneven firing order, but I don't know personally. This should be easy to do just swapping parts. Should be reliable with gains across the board, and lots of fun.
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