Is my engine going to be forever broken?
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Is my engine going to be forever broken?
Bought a used 2011 6.2L with 40k miles. Ran great for a while winter doing mostly short trips. Went to do an oil change at the beginning of summer.
Then on the week I was to go on vacation check engine light. Canadian dealer tells me it won't be covered by 10 year powertrain because I don't have the proof that all oil changes were made.
I get it checked in the USA and they replace solenoid and cam phaser under warranty. 7000 miles later I get the light to change the oil. I'm just a day away from home so I wait until I get back.
At the dealer today for oil change and he tells me I have NO oil left and that coolant and oil are mixed.
Why did I not get any light for low oil?
Let's say it's a seal that failed and they replace it(hopefully warrantied). Will the engine be reliable after that or should I trade that truck ASAP?
Then on the week I was to go on vacation check engine light. Canadian dealer tells me it won't be covered by 10 year powertrain because I don't have the proof that all oil changes were made.
I get it checked in the USA and they replace solenoid and cam phaser under warranty. 7000 miles later I get the light to change the oil. I'm just a day away from home so I wait until I get back.
At the dealer today for oil change and he tells me I have NO oil left and that coolant and oil are mixed.
Why did I not get any light for low oil?
Let's say it's a seal that failed and they replace it(hopefully warrantied). Will the engine be reliable after that or should I trade that truck ASAP?
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I'm just wondering if you would be comfortable keeping that engine after those 2 issues(cam phaser, coolant/oil mix) or if you would trade the truck for another one?
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Depending on how long it ran in that condition, it's probably time to replace the engine. Crank mains and rod journals are probably gone, bearings gone, cam lobes gone, plus all that crap circulating through the oil passages... Engine may be rebuildable if not warranteed, won't really know til you get it pulled apart and inspected.
I would not expect good news honestly.
I would not expect good news honestly.
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Bought a used 2011 6.2L with 40k miles. Ran great for a while winter doing mostly short trips. Went to do an oil change at the beginning of summer.
Then on the week I was to go on vacation check engine light. Canadian dealer tells me it won't be covered by 10 year powertrain because I don't have the proof that all oil changes were made.
I get it checked in the USA and they replace solenoid and cam phaser under warranty. 7000 miles later I get the light to change the oil. I'm just a day away from home so I wait until I get back.
At the dealer today for oil change and he tells me I have NO oil left and that coolant and oil are mixed.
Why did I not get any light for low oil?
Let's say it's a seal that failed and they replace it(hopefully warrantied). Will the engine be reliable after that or should I trade that truck ASAP?
Then on the week I was to go on vacation check engine light. Canadian dealer tells me it won't be covered by 10 year powertrain because I don't have the proof that all oil changes were made.
I get it checked in the USA and they replace solenoid and cam phaser under warranty. 7000 miles later I get the light to change the oil. I'm just a day away from home so I wait until I get back.
At the dealer today for oil change and he tells me I have NO oil left and that coolant and oil are mixed.
Why did I not get any light for low oil?
Let's say it's a seal that failed and they replace it(hopefully warrantied). Will the engine be reliable after that or should I trade that truck ASAP?
Brittany
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I sent a PM to Ford rep Brittany. Hope that helps getting things to run smoothly.
Just to be clear on what happened.
Original check engine was for exhaust cam delay. Mainly and anti-pollution feature. It was fixed under warranty by a Ford dealer in the USA during my trip. I was told there was no ill effect from this apart from higher pollution emissions. They first replaced a solenoid and then a cam phaser. Problem never came back after that. Engine always ran great before, during and after the check engine.
Oil pressure was never low. Oil light never lit up. Never saw any white, black or blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. MPG was exactly what it should be and engine ran great. No spills of any kind under the truck.
Change oil light did come on. I brought the truck to the dealer 300 miles later to get it changed. That's when they showed me a dry dipstick and coolant that was mixed with oil.
As far as I know oil pressure was never low and engine always ran great(sound, MPG, no warning lights) I'm just no expert at engine's internals and wanted expert advice on long term effects of running an engine with low oil and oil in coolant. Maybe it will be fine after they change a gasket or whatever else is needed.
I could trade for an F150 that would be more appropriate to my trailer since I ended up getting a light pull behind instead of a 5th wheel. But I would definitely lose some money on the trade due to sales taxes and salesman profit. Also my current truck is well equipped with bed cover and summer/winter tires which would not fit the F150.
I would prefer to keep the F250 but I don't want it to be unreliable and expensive in the coming years. Thanks for your feedback.
Just to be clear on what happened.
Original check engine was for exhaust cam delay. Mainly and anti-pollution feature. It was fixed under warranty by a Ford dealer in the USA during my trip. I was told there was no ill effect from this apart from higher pollution emissions. They first replaced a solenoid and then a cam phaser. Problem never came back after that. Engine always ran great before, during and after the check engine.
Oil pressure was never low. Oil light never lit up. Never saw any white, black or blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. MPG was exactly what it should be and engine ran great. No spills of any kind under the truck.
Change oil light did come on. I brought the truck to the dealer 300 miles later to get it changed. That's when they showed me a dry dipstick and coolant that was mixed with oil.
As far as I know oil pressure was never low and engine always ran great(sound, MPG, no warning lights) I'm just no expert at engine's internals and wanted expert advice on long term effects of running an engine with low oil and oil in coolant. Maybe it will be fine after they change a gasket or whatever else is needed.
I could trade for an F150 that would be more appropriate to my trailer since I ended up getting a light pull behind instead of a 5th wheel. But I would definitely lose some money on the trade due to sales taxes and salesman profit. Also my current truck is well equipped with bed cover and summer/winter tires which would not fit the F150.
I would prefer to keep the F250 but I don't want it to be unreliable and expensive in the coming years. Thanks for your feedback.
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I sent a PM to Ford rep Brittany. Hope that helps getting things to run smoothly.
Just to be clear on what happened.
Original check engine was for exhaust cam delay. Mainly and anti-pollution feature. It was fixed under warranty by a Ford dealer in the USA during my trip. I was told there was no ill effect from this apart from higher pollution emissions. They first replaced a solenoid and then a cam phaser. Problem never came back after that. Engine always ran great before, during and after the check engine.
Oil pressure was never low. Oil light never lit up. Never saw any white, black or blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. MPG was exactly what it should be and engine ran great. No spills of any kind under the truck.
Change oil light did come on. I brought the truck to the dealer 300 miles later to get it changed. That's when they showed me a dry dipstick and coolant that was mixed with oil.
As far as I know oil pressure was never low and engine always ran great(sound, MPG, no warning lights) I'm just no expert at engine's internals and wanted expert advice on long term effects of running an engine with low oil and oil in coolant. Maybe it will be fine after they change a gasket or whatever else is needed.
I could trade for an F150 that would be more appropriate to my trailer since I ended up getting a light pull behind instead of a 5th wheel. But I would definitely lose some money on the trade due to sales taxes and salesman profit. Also my current truck is well equipped with bed cover and summer/winter tires which would not fit the F150.
I would prefer to keep the F250 but I don't want it to be unreliable and expensive in the coming years. Thanks for your feedback.
Just to be clear on what happened.
Original check engine was for exhaust cam delay. Mainly and anti-pollution feature. It was fixed under warranty by a Ford dealer in the USA during my trip. I was told there was no ill effect from this apart from higher pollution emissions. They first replaced a solenoid and then a cam phaser. Problem never came back after that. Engine always ran great before, during and after the check engine.
Oil pressure was never low. Oil light never lit up. Never saw any white, black or blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. MPG was exactly what it should be and engine ran great. No spills of any kind under the truck.
Change oil light did come on. I brought the truck to the dealer 300 miles later to get it changed. That's when they showed me a dry dipstick and coolant that was mixed with oil.
As far as I know oil pressure was never low and engine always ran great(sound, MPG, no warning lights) I'm just no expert at engine's internals and wanted expert advice on long term effects of running an engine with low oil and oil in coolant. Maybe it will be fine after they change a gasket or whatever else is needed.
I could trade for an F150 that would be more appropriate to my trailer since I ended up getting a light pull behind instead of a 5th wheel. But I would definitely lose some money on the trade due to sales taxes and salesman profit. Also my current truck is well equipped with bed cover and summer/winter tires which would not fit the F150.
I would prefer to keep the F250 but I don't want it to be unreliable and expensive in the coming years. Thanks for your feedback.
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ford seems to have a lot of problems with these engines....not a rare event at all.
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