Air Conditioner Question
#17
perhaps, but the inside of the truck was not that cool. had been sitting in the sun most of the morning and the AC was only running about 5 minutes.
prior to running the AC the thermometer in the vent said 100°F and i doubt very much that the cab had cooled down that much in that time frame.
i'll try to confirm whether it has a valve in the heater core lines or not.
prior to running the AC the thermometer in the vent said 100°F and i doubt very much that the cab had cooled down that much in that time frame.
i'll try to confirm whether it has a valve in the heater core lines or not.
#18
A/C Results
Howdy again,
I have an update to my A/C issues. Last week I added the insulation to the A/C line(as shown earlier in this post). I have two pics, with a vent thermometer. Each of these pics were taken after driving home from work 33 highway miles via the exact same route. As I stated earlier the truck does not drip water after driving with the A/C running.
The first pic is from a 2013 Chevrolet Equinox with an outside temp of 91 degrees reflecting a vent temp at 43.2 degrees.
The second pic is from my 2013 Ford F150 with an outside temp of 88 degrees with a vent temp of 52.3.
Obviously there is a big difference of 9 degrees.
Next week I'm returning to the dealer with these findings. If you have any suggestions that I can supply to the dealer to help me resolve this issue is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
2013 Chevy Equinox:
2013 Ford F150:
I have an update to my A/C issues. Last week I added the insulation to the A/C line(as shown earlier in this post). I have two pics, with a vent thermometer. Each of these pics were taken after driving home from work 33 highway miles via the exact same route. As I stated earlier the truck does not drip water after driving with the A/C running.
The first pic is from a 2013 Chevrolet Equinox with an outside temp of 91 degrees reflecting a vent temp at 43.2 degrees.
The second pic is from my 2013 Ford F150 with an outside temp of 88 degrees with a vent temp of 52.3.
Obviously there is a big difference of 9 degrees.
Next week I'm returning to the dealer with these findings. If you have any suggestions that I can supply to the dealer to help me resolve this issue is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
2013 Chevy Equinox:
2013 Ford F150:
#21
#22
i think the design is fine. the specs may be loose, but the design is fine.
as shown the system is fully capable of blowing low 40° air in recirculation mode.
now shown or addressed, but what mode was your AC in? regular vent, or recirculation? on my truck, that makes a huge difference.
i was also able to confirm that there is no valve in the heater core lines, so the difference in temp is just based on what air the system inhales. personally, i find this somewhat surprising because my expedition has the heater core bypass valve ... would have thought a truck 4 years newer would also, but that is not the case.
as shown the system is fully capable of blowing low 40° air in recirculation mode.
now shown or addressed, but what mode was your AC in? regular vent, or recirculation? on my truck, that makes a huge difference.
i was also able to confirm that there is no valve in the heater core lines, so the difference in temp is just based on what air the system inhales. personally, i find this somewhat surprising because my expedition has the heater core bypass valve ... would have thought a truck 4 years newer would also, but that is not the case.
#23
#24
I have a 2012 F150 with Eco Boost. The AC works very good in all conditions. Drove the truck in Arizona & in Florida with temps near 100. The air blowing out of the vents was too cold to have point directly at us. It didn't matter if we were sitting in traffic or moving, the air was cold.
I had a 2008 F150 that had an issue that was very similar to what you are describing. It ended up being a blendoor. That's not a typo that's what the service writer, wrote on the repair ticket. After getting a new blendoor & control unit I never had that problem again. It was a big job getting that fixed they had to take out the entire dash. Good Luck.
I had a 2008 F150 that had an issue that was very similar to what you are describing. It ended up being a blendoor. That's not a typo that's what the service writer, wrote on the repair ticket. After getting a new blendoor & control unit I never had that problem again. It was a big job getting that fixed they had to take out the entire dash. Good Luck.
#25
You will put more drag on the vehicle driving with the windows open anyway.
#26
** Update ** 8/27/2014
Howdy,
Today I got my truck back from the dealer concerning my A/C issue.
Pundmann Ford:
- Test electronic automatic temperature control system for possible trouble codes. No codes found.
- Test A/C vent temp. In shop at idle vent temp at 46 - 50 degrees(I NEVER GOT ANYTHING UNDER 50 DEGREES AT IDLE OR DRIVING ).
- Reclaimed 22 ounces of refrigerant from system and recharged the system with 24 ounces of refrigerant. HHHMMM... Two additional ounces of refrigerant.
- Tested A/C lines pressures. High pressure 180 psi. Low 35 psi.
- Tested temperature at evaporator core at 39 degrees.
- Tested vent temp at 46 - 49 degrees.
- Compared with like vehicle in shop(2013 F-150 crew cab).
- A/C system operating correctly at this time.
As you may recall, I tested the vent temp(with a thermometer) of my 2013 Chevy Equinox with a vent temp of 42 degrees! The service tech said, "the Equinox probably has a larger condenser than the F-150'.
Really, then that tells me the F-150 design needs work!
I'll drive it a while and let you guys know the results. Ford Motor Co. is going to call me next week to discuss the results. We'll see what happens.
Today I got my truck back from the dealer concerning my A/C issue.
Pundmann Ford:
- Test electronic automatic temperature control system for possible trouble codes. No codes found.
- Test A/C vent temp. In shop at idle vent temp at 46 - 50 degrees(I NEVER GOT ANYTHING UNDER 50 DEGREES AT IDLE OR DRIVING ).
- Reclaimed 22 ounces of refrigerant from system and recharged the system with 24 ounces of refrigerant. HHHMMM... Two additional ounces of refrigerant.
- Tested A/C lines pressures. High pressure 180 psi. Low 35 psi.
- Tested temperature at evaporator core at 39 degrees.
- Tested vent temp at 46 - 49 degrees.
- Compared with like vehicle in shop(2013 F-150 crew cab).
- A/C system operating correctly at this time.
As you may recall, I tested the vent temp(with a thermometer) of my 2013 Chevy Equinox with a vent temp of 42 degrees! The service tech said, "the Equinox probably has a larger condenser than the F-150'.
Really, then that tells me the F-150 design needs work!
I'll drive it a while and let you guys know the results. Ford Motor Co. is going to call me next week to discuss the results. We'll see what happens.
#28
#30
Hi guys,
I just bought '04 E350 with a little over 67k on it. The AC wasn't working at all, so I got a 12oz can of r134 and put it in. Prior to this, the ac clutch wouldn't spin, I got the pressure up to 35lbs and the clutch spun, but then it went back down to zero.
The guys at the parts store say I need 60oz of stuff in the thing to completely recharge it, how do I tell if I have a leak or if the little amount of stuff I put in the system just 'evened out' and I lost all that pressure again?
I just bought '04 E350 with a little over 67k on it. The AC wasn't working at all, so I got a 12oz can of r134 and put it in. Prior to this, the ac clutch wouldn't spin, I got the pressure up to 35lbs and the clutch spun, but then it went back down to zero.
The guys at the parts store say I need 60oz of stuff in the thing to completely recharge it, how do I tell if I have a leak or if the little amount of stuff I put in the system just 'evened out' and I lost all that pressure again?