Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > 1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel SPONSORED BY:

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-28-2014, 10:19 PM
glovemeister glovemeister is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,036
glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Favorite Method To Get Spindle Out Of Knuckle D60

Began the project today. Everything went smooth until it was time to pull the spindles. I fought the drivers side for 2-3 hours today.

What I have tried: soaking everything with pb blaster and 2-1 mix of atf and acetone.

Removed all the dirt from the diameter of the spindle to knuckle joint with a pick.

Dana 60 Speced Spindle Puller and 10 lb slide hammer (probably 150 strikes and no dice.)

Using a thick magazine and hitting the spindle up and down and side to side.

Removed the tie rod from the knuckle and used a long punch and hammer from the backside to knock spindle through, or started so I can use a slidehammer.

Attempting to use prybars or thin screwdrivers/chisels as wedges
Using a long 4x4 block of wood with a magazine on top to lower the spindle onto to bust it free

Any other things I can try? Truck isn't even from a salt state so this level of craziness is absurd.

Appreciate any help you can give me.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-28-2014, 10:48 PM
OldWoodsDiesel's Avatar
OldWoodsDiesel OldWoodsDiesel is online now
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Exton, PA
Posts: 1,584
OldWoodsDiesel is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Haven't done that job myself, but here's a bump.

...and some sympathy. I hate those frustrating jobs.

Have you tried beer? On yourself?
__________________
JP
96 F250 SCLB 4x4 7.3L PSD - RED (RIP - the part out has begun)
97 F350 CCLB 4x4 7.3L PSD - WHITE (361k mi - DD, auto->ZF5, 3.55LS, 6637, 3"DP->StraightPipe, 33x12.5x16.5's, object of more upgrades)
97 F250 RCLB 2WD 5.8L gas - BLUE (ZF5, 3.55, distant-future-project-truck - 235k mi)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-28-2014, 11:15 PM
stainlessstroker95's Avatar
stainlessstroker95 stainlessstroker95 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Monroe City in
Posts: 2,890
stainlessstroker95 has a good reputation on FTE.stainlessstroker95 has a good reputation on FTE.
Heat it up with a torch. Not cherry red. We used a small propane torch.
__________________
Gabe 95 f250 4x4 super cab psd, zf 5 speed, 6637 air intake, scan gauge, stancor gpr, ccv mod, 140v IDM, HPX line, irate t4 mount, s366 turbo, i/c, 3" plenums, Rosewood 238/80 hybrids, T500, studs, springs, rods, DP Tuner f6 chip, diamond eye ss 4" exhaust, 3" dp, irate e fuel, short throw shifter, Valair kevlar/ceramic clutch, Destination MTs, d60 RSK V codes , shackle flip B codes, bilstien shocks, scorpion bed liner, custom tailgate. 96 f350 4x4 psd, dually flatbed welding truck, zf 5 speed, stock. 79 bronco.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-28-2014, 11:30 PM
redman84's Avatar
redman84 redman84 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 2,454
redman84 has a good reputation on FTE.redman84 has a good reputation on FTE.
My dana 60 knuckles were infinitely harder to remove than the d50 ones. Magazine and hammer as well as the screwdriver/chisel deal was how I got it loose-ish. Once it was noticeably moving the slide hammer finished it off. Drivers side took HOURS. The passenger wasn't too bad. Maybe swap sides to boost morale. And use the torch...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-28-2014, 11:43 PM
glovemeister glovemeister is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,036
glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWoodsDiesel View Post
Haven't done that job myself, but here's a bump.

...and some sympathy. I hate those frustrating jobs.

Have you tried beer? On yourself?
Haha appreciate it.

Didn't have any today, maybe it will help the project go along good.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-28-2014, 11:43 PM
glovemeister glovemeister is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,036
glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stainlessstroker95 View Post
Heat it up with a torch. Not cherry red. We used a small propane torch.
On the backside or front side? I assume get the knuckle hot not spindle?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-28-2014, 11:44 PM
glovemeister glovemeister is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,036
glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.glovemeister is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by redman84 View Post
My dana 60 knuckles were infinitely harder to remove than the d50 ones. Magazine and hammer as well as the screwdriver/chisel deal was how I got it loose-ish. Once it was noticeably moving the slide hammer finished it off. Drivers side took HOURS. The passenger wasn't too bad. Maybe swap sides to boost morale. And use the torch...
Lol I don't feel bad then. I swore one of the above tricks I used would have busted it loose. I'll try the torch and so more getting after it tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-29-2014, 02:38 AM
JSchuricht JSchuricht is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Manor, Texas
Posts: 88
JSchuricht is starting off with a positive reputation.
My favorite method if replacing the ball joints is to cut the ball joints, pull the entire knuckle and press the spindle out with my shop press. I wasted several days and many hours without it budging, cutting the ball joints and pressing the spindle out took less than 10 minutes.
__________________
95 F250, 7.3, D60, ZF6, intercooled
2000 F250 7.3 238/100's and some other goodies
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-29-2014, 08:36 AM
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport tjc transport is online now
i ain't rite
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Marlboro Mental Hospital
Posts: 33,934
tjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputationtjc transport has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWoodsDiesel View Post
Have you tried beer? On yourself?
Quote:
Originally Posted by stainlessstroker95 View Post
Heat it up with a torch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSchuricht View Post
My favorite method if replacing the ball joints is to cut the ball joints, pull the entire knuckle and press the spindle out with my shop press. I wasted several days and many hours without it budging, cutting the ball joints and pressing the spindle out took less than 10 minutes.
this is how i do it.
step one: self medicate with alcohol.
step two: hit with large hammer. the bigger the better. ( spindle, not self)
step three: curse at spindle.
step four: remove knuckle.
step five: self medicate again to eliminate pain from all the beating with hammer.
step six: use the 30 ton press to press the damn thing out.
step seven: curse at self for not proceeding directly to step six

__________________
Tom
Moderator of the "not wrapped too tight forum"
rarely in life do you meet a person that will drop everything to help a stranger,
and give the shirt off his back to a friend.
Steve Price was that kind of person.
Godspeed "window licker", the short bus will never be the same with you gone.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-29-2014, 09:44 AM
DZL JIM's Avatar
DZL JIM DZL JIM is offline
PREMIUM SPONSOR
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: North East Ohio
Posts: 2,128
DZL JIM has a great reputation on FTE.DZL JIM has a great reputation on FTE.DZL JIM has a great reputation on FTE.DZL JIM has a great reputation on FTE.
Air hammer with blunt end tool all around spindle between studs.
Then beat up and down on block of wood at end of spindle.
Repeat air hammer and block beating as needed.
Seems to always work well.

Heat is last resort, although a little bit might just do it.
__________________
'96 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 PSD
'05 F-250 6.0 cc 4x4
DZLJIM.com

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-29-2014, 05:06 PM
strokin'_tatsch's Avatar
strokin'_tatsch strokin'_tatsch is online now
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 9,536
strokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to beholdstrokin'_tatsch is a splendid one to behold
I always get them off with a slide hammer. No hitting the spindle with a hammer or anything. Just smack with a slide hammer and they always come off with less than 10 smacks.. I'm not in the rust belt or anything though, so that probably helps.

When I did my D44, I didn't have the slide hammer adapter. I spent at least 5-6 hours per side getting those off. Lots of hitting with a mini sledge and a block of wood, chisels, air hammer, etc. Everytime I've used the slide hammer adapter though, it has gone extremely smooth.
__________________
Travis- Death Row Diesel Inmate #7
1995 F-250 RC PSD- because race truck
2000 F-250 SC LB 4x4 ZF6- 4" TB, 6637, TW and Gearhead tunes, 160/100s, Driven Diesel full fuel system, S365..
1994 F-150 4x4

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-29-2014, 09:21 PM
96ford250 96ford250 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 969
96ford250 is starting off with a positive reputation.
2x4 and a 2 pound hammer hasn't let me down yet. works like a charm no slide hammers, special tools, heat or anything. just put the 2x4 on top and beat on it. then do the same on one side then the other, then back to the top. you could from the bottom if you can get enough room to swing the hammer.
__________________
1996 F250 HD 4x4 Single Cab Long Bed, 1997 7.3, auto 3.55s, 6637, E-fuel, CCV mod, 2001 IDM, EBPV delete, Diamond Eye turbo back, high pressure crossover, B&M 14,400 btu trans cooler
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-29-2014, 09:38 PM
dougbrown's Avatar
dougbrown dougbrown is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Crapy southern New Jersey
Posts: 4,544
dougbrown has a very good reputation on FTE.dougbrown has a very good reputation on FTE.dougbrown has a very good reputation on FTE.
Ive been told you can use a 2 jaw puller. Thread the 2 spindle nuts back on and set the rod of the puller on the puller on the stub shaft. Then the Jaws around the nuts Now pull it off. I've never done it.
__________________
Doug
96 F250XL Psd 4x4 180,000, afe intake, 3" DP, Isspro gauges, D60 swap, Chip, next Stage 1's
00 F250xlt,psd, 2wd, 3:73, 398,000 , K&N intake, super chip, auto! (Dad's)
97 F Super Duty 7.3L,ZF5,166xxx, Dump,
01 F250 CCSB 7.3L stock for now, Boss truck
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-30-2014, 12:11 PM
LeoJr LeoJr is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Denton, TX
Posts: 1,201
LeoJr is starting off with a positive reputation.
I wish I had "step 6" available, would make a lot of things easier.

Using a dead blow hammer against a 2x4 I didn't realize mine were moving at first, then only rocking back and forth. I first slid a thin putty knife in the crack and knocked it the other direction, and so forth with progressively thicker items wedged in there.

I can't imagine a propane torch getting enough heat into the spindle and knuckle to be effective. If heat is the tool you want to use, this is how I put heat into something with a lot of mass…

Click the image to open in full size.
__________________
*1996 F250 crew cab/short bed, 4x4, auto PSD*Looking for gray 40/20/40 seats, I have a dirty set of blue I'd trade *stainless window vents *remote door locks work with engine running mod.
Link to my D60 refurb and OBS swap thread Link to my OBS air vent R&R thread Link to my grab handle install
Link to my tire size comparison pics
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-30-2014, 08:55 PM
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad Diesel_Brad is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Gilbert, PA
Posts: 14,194
Diesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud ofDiesel_Brad has much to be proud of
Ever since I have found the slide hammer with adapter, It takes less than 15 hit ANYTIME . The block of wood, magazine, chisels, etc have wasted HOURS of my time and I will NEVER use them again.

Last week I took an 86 apart that was NEVER apart and it was a plow truck its whole life(200k) and IIRC it took 8-10 hits per side to have them on the floor
__________________
Looking for Blue 40-20-40 seats. PM me !!!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2014, 08:55 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Remove Spindle from knuckle KC98072 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 5 03-12-2013 02:16 PM
removing rusted on spindle yellow73bb 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 12 05-25-2011 09:16 AM
Spindle Removal Dana 60 thekingofcows 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 13 02-01-2010 11:54 PM
Need 1996 2WD Spindle (and help) jasonwho Alabama Chapter 1 09-20-2009 09:31 PM
Spindle stuck - can't get it out. livetoride20000 Super Duty & Heavy Duty 10 08-03-2009 08:17 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > 1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


Participate In The Forums

Create new posts and participate in discussions. It's free!

Sign Up »





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup