Polyurethane bushings for the rear springs?
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Polyurethane bushings for the rear springs?
Does anybody have any real life insight/experience with polyurethane bushings vs regular brass bushings in the rear suspension. My truck is a '56 f100. I am Installing the extended rear hangers on my truck, which means I'll be using the poly bushing on the back end of the rear spring. I am currently planning on flipping the front rear spring hanger. I started thinking that maybe I would want to install the front hanger from mid fifty that is adjustable, but even more so it let's you use the poly bushings on the front part of the rear spring also.
http://midfifty.com/item.php?INV_ID=19780
Of course that leads me to think, if I go one poly, then two poly, maybe I should buy the rear hanger also and have poly on every moving part?!
http://midfifty.com/item.php?INV_ID=20816
If any of you have seen my build thread, you'll notice that most of what I buy and do is out of necessity, sort of bear minimum. I'm not afraid of spending some money if I have to, and I'm a big fan of "buy the expensive one and cry once." Will I regret not installing poly bushings in all of the rear spring parts? I already have the pins, so I could always do it later...but I was wondering if anyone had any wisdom.
If I went poly and new hangers, it would be $200.
Thanks for any thoughts!
http://midfifty.com/item.php?INV_ID=19780
Of course that leads me to think, if I go one poly, then two poly, maybe I should buy the rear hanger also and have poly on every moving part?!
http://midfifty.com/item.php?INV_ID=20816
If any of you have seen my build thread, you'll notice that most of what I buy and do is out of necessity, sort of bear minimum. I'm not afraid of spending some money if I have to, and I'm a big fan of "buy the expensive one and cry once." Will I regret not installing poly bushings in all of the rear spring parts? I already have the pins, so I could always do it later...but I was wondering if anyone had any wisdom.
If I went poly and new hangers, it would be $200.
Thanks for any thoughts!
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I ask because I used the Mid Fifty poly bushings on my 55.
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The good news is that poly-bushing they don't squeak . . . but then neither do brass if they are lubed properly. The bad news is durability . . . plastic is softer than brass. That is OK on some bushing that don't get a lot of wear but the spring bushings are constantly moving when you drive down the road.
The other issue is the adjustable hangers . . . don't forget that if you change the position of the rear springs with the spring hanger you may develop a vibration as you have changed the pinion angle. Here is a great post by Bob Jones that explains it: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1325329-drive-shaft-pinion-angle-and-how-it-works.html#post14507022
You may need to use caster shims on the rear axle to get rid of a vibration at highway speeds. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rex-re1468?seid=srese1&gclid=CJq39o3n4L8CFQsyaQodUYEAM g
The same is true for the front as when you flip the spring hangers you will change the caster angle.
The other issue is the adjustable hangers . . . don't forget that if you change the position of the rear springs with the spring hanger you may develop a vibration as you have changed the pinion angle. Here is a great post by Bob Jones that explains it: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1325329-drive-shaft-pinion-angle-and-how-it-works.html#post14507022
You may need to use caster shims on the rear axle to get rid of a vibration at highway speeds. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rex-re1468?seid=srese1&gclid=CJq39o3n4L8CFQsyaQodUYEAM g
The same is true for the front as when you flip the spring hangers you will change the caster angle.
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Since polyurethane can be formulated to be as hard as metal to as soft as a pillow (most modern furniture, mattresses, and autos use polyurethane upholstery padding), it's difficult to give a blanket statement about it's use in suspensions. All my race cars use polyurethane bushed sway bars and progressive suspension bump stops, but I do not use them in suspension pivots except on dedicated (non street driven) race cars since if they are hard enough not to give more than rubber or get beat out quickly they ride extremely harsh. If replacing metal bushings with PU, they should last well, the metal they ride on will wear before the bushing because of an effect known as embeddability. PU requires a specially formulated compatible grease for lubrication, don't use regular dino based grease or oils.
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