Well he came in today and said he is sure its a 429 not 427 not worth anything to me.

 

A quick check, 429 = bell top flat with 7.5" bolt hole spread, or FE round top bell.


John

 

You do when it's a dry sleeve installation. And you have to have something left at the bottom to support the sleeve, that's still connected to the block structure.

 

For sure not worth a grand, unless its a CJ/SCJ motor, or a Boss nine. Might want to take a look at it anyway to see if it's worth investing in

 

excuse me for being blunt but the hype around the fe is cr@p. there's 1000's of them out there & everybody thinks they are worth GOLD. I have one. I just keep shopping around and sooner or later you find the realist that will sell you what you need or want for a reasonable price, anything over $500 is a wast of money. I have a 390 with aftermarket parts with a Paxton super charger. If you can't find what you want the aftermarket is willing to set you up with a fe that will kick just about anything on the street. good luck. I've got $3500 in mine and just as long as I keep it under 6k rpm I'm good for a long time. I'd never build another one, I'd go with a 460, Its cheaper and a hell of a lot more power.

 

Well, to be blunt if you knew anything about 427s you would not lump them in with 390s, and you would know your pillow barge 460 was always a comatose slug in factory applications, while the 427 was built to win races from the local drag strip to Le Mans. No one collects 460s.

 

Well, around here I've seen quite a few 460 collectors. BUT, once they've shelled out the $$$$ for them, they have a HARD time selling them. Unless it's to the local scrap yard

 

To a normal person this may be the case.

I despise all gassers - except FE's. There is just something about an FE that turns my crank - the sound, the torque, the look, and the hernias caused by the intake manifold. It is irresistible.

I have always been a Cummins fan and have combined Cumminses and Fords to make great vehicles, but when it came time to put a new engine in my '66, I just couldn't resist the call of the FE.

 

The sound ? I don't understand that part. There are two basic firing orders for V8's that could (possibly) change the sound. As for Diesels, gimme me a 3406 Cat or an old big cam 400 Cummins at 2600 rpms with straight pipes

 

Does a 302 and a 460 sound the same? I haven't heard any that sound even close to the same.

 

Depends on the 302 - 302HO had a different firing order than the "regular" 302, same as the 351W and 351M

From the front of the engine, the two different firing orders are:

1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 - L-R-L-L-R-L-R-R

1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 - L-L-R-L-R-R-L-R

In reality, the left-right order is the same, just 180 degrees out of phase off (when you consider the timing cycle is 720 degrees).

So, doesn't really explain the difference. Cam, headers, bore size, all sorts of things make different engines sound different. Like apples and oranges, really

 

Well it's not the firing order that you think causes the difference. I've had people say my 331 sounded like a big block. But it's not.

 

My point exactly.