aftermarket hitch for the X
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Wisconsin Manufacturer of the Year Program...Wisconsin Manufacturer of the Year > Home
...so in other words, the Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce is a group sponsored in part by a lobbying group (https://www.wmc.org/) who's sole purpose is to promote commerce in Wisconsin. The award they won was one of nine issued this past year to businesses in Wisconsin.
The award simply means they were the best in Wisconsin - judged by what amounts to a chamber of commerce/lobbying group.
I'm sure they have a nice product (I have never owned a Curt hitch so I can't say if they are great or terrible), but I would also venture to say that the average Joe out there should not just consider an award such as this as meaning much. It's easy to get a lobbying group to give it's members an award...doesn't mean the product is somehow better than any other product out there.
I would agree with your statement:
...but I wouldn't pair that with
...and expect the award to bolster the argument. Now, if an independent group (oh, I don't know, maybe JD Powers or similar?) that had no stake in commerce in Wisconsin or better yet, evaluated companies OUTSIDE of Wisconsin (oh, I don't know, maybe the entire US?) was to issue an award, then maybe I'd put some weight to that statement.
...so in other words, the Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce is a group sponsored in part by a lobbying group (https://www.wmc.org/) who's sole purpose is to promote commerce in Wisconsin. The award they won was one of nine issued this past year to businesses in Wisconsin.
The award simply means they were the best in Wisconsin - judged by what amounts to a chamber of commerce/lobbying group.
I'm sure they have a nice product (I have never owned a Curt hitch so I can't say if they are great or terrible), but I would also venture to say that the average Joe out there should not just consider an award such as this as meaning much. It's easy to get a lobbying group to give it's members an award...doesn't mean the product is somehow better than any other product out there.
I would agree with your statement:
...but I wouldn't pair that with
...and expect the award to bolster the argument. Now, if an independent group (oh, I don't know, maybe JD Powers or similar?) that had no stake in commerce in Wisconsin or better yet, evaluated companies OUTSIDE of Wisconsin (oh, I don't know, maybe the entire US?) was to issue an award, then maybe I'd put some weight to that statement.
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after looking for a good used hitch for my X for over a year I went to ford and was quoted $750.00 for a hitch for my 2001 X. Being a welder by trade I started looking for a multi fit class 5 hitch for an F350 to modify, I found a Reese class 5 multi fit at tractor supply for $189.00 and bought it. Got it home and dropped the fuel tank and mounted the hitch side plates using existing frame holes, when I installed the hitch beam onto the side plates I found the receiver tube to be pointing about 20 degrees to the ground, I cut the hitch beam in two places, 5" from each end plate, the beam is 3" x 1/4" thick round pipe, I then made two 1/4" X 3" long sleeves with 3" inside diameter that slipped over each end of the beam, I then bolted the hitch end plates to the side plates and jacked the hitch beam up into place sliding the sleeves over the cuts in the beam, doing this allowed me to turn the receiver tube to any angle I need. I set the receiver tube to the correct angle and tacked it in place, I removed the beam from the truck welded up the sleeves using 3/32 7018 welding rod, reinstalled the hitch beam and all is well. I now have a class 5, 12,000 pound capacity hitch that is made of thicker material than the OEM, mounts with larger bolts and is all around more rugged than the OEM with much better corrosion protection for less than the cost of the steel that is needed to fabricate it. The hitch height is correct as well as the angle of the receiver.
Just wanted to let you know that we can replace the hitch without being at mercy of ford.
Mrfix
Just wanted to let you know that we can replace the hitch without being at mercy of ford.
Mrfix
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I was right about the rear sway bars and in most cases the Warns are bought needlessly. Nobody wants to admit it though. (a sticking dial is not a reason to throw money at the problem)
I was also right about the trans suddenly overheating in reverse and causing leakage.....not true.
Like I said before; as long as people keep buying things there will be someone there to sell it.
#52
You often say I am wrong and it's always WOW! or CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAD THAT! or something of that nature.
I was right about the rear sway bars and in most cases the Warns are bought needlessly. Nobody wants to admit it though.
I was also right about the trans suddenly overheating in reverse and causing leakage.....not true.
Like I said before; as long as people keep buying things there will be someone there to sell it.
I was right about the rear sway bars and in most cases the Warns are bought needlessly. Nobody wants to admit it though.
I was also right about the trans suddenly overheating in reverse and causing leakage.....not true.
Like I said before; as long as people keep buying things there will be someone there to sell it.
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You have no educated analogies, until you drive your particular EX with a rear sway bar and without a rear sway bar you have absolutely no education, Its just pointless dribble...
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No it's not. After I made the assumptions I saw about 3 posts that agreed with me but that didn't confirm anything since the answer is just common sense to begin with, plus I cited personal observations on it to confirm my position on it.
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Case in point:
...and in most cases the Warns are bought needlessly.
Warn hubs are far from useless. They work quite well. You posted bad information and I corrected it.
Nobody wants to admit it though. (a sticking dial is not a reason to throw money at the problem)
But that wasn't the assertion you made when I corrected you. You stated Warn hubs were useless and they aren't. They work and they work quite well.
I was right about the rear sway bars
I was also right about the trans suddenly overheating in reverse and causing leakage.....not true.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge facts doesn't mean you're right. It just means (like I posted earlier) it's ridiculous.
Stewart
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And there is the key...you just said your "PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS". Observations aren't 'right' or 'wrong', so you should consider not claiming you are "right" and others are "wrong" since it's all just opinion.
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I say you're wrong when I KNOW you're wrong. I don't think it's very often (like you stated) , but rather, just on subjects you continue to argue about even when faced with facts.
Case in point:
You said, and I quote, that "Warns are useless." You didn't say they were needless, you said they were useless, and that's just plain wrong.
Warn hubs are far from useless. They work quite well. You posted bad information and I corrected it.
Nobody?? Jeez, you need to pay better attention. I not only agree with you when you say that, but I have often pointed people to your drill-a-small-hole fix that you came up with.
But that wasn't the assertion you made when I corrected you. You stated Warn hubs were useless and they aren't. They work and they work quite well.
No you aren't. Rear sway bars can help with Excursion Wander which means it helps with the ride. You don't have to tow or drive hard and fast to obtain a better ride by adding a rear sway bar.
Again, wrong. It is true. It's happened so many times, people have posted about the problem for years and Mark Kovalsky has explained why it happens.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge facts doesn't mean you're right. It just means (like I posted earlier) it's ridiculous.
Stewart
Case in point:
You said, and I quote, that "Warns are useless." You didn't say they were needless, you said they were useless, and that's just plain wrong.
Warn hubs are far from useless. They work quite well. You posted bad information and I corrected it.
Nobody?? Jeez, you need to pay better attention. I not only agree with you when you say that, but I have often pointed people to your drill-a-small-hole fix that you came up with.
But that wasn't the assertion you made when I corrected you. You stated Warn hubs were useless and they aren't. They work and they work quite well.
No you aren't. Rear sway bars can help with Excursion Wander which means it helps with the ride. You don't have to tow or drive hard and fast to obtain a better ride by adding a rear sway bar.
Again, wrong. It is true. It's happened so many times, people have posted about the problem for years and Mark Kovalsky has explained why it happens.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge facts doesn't mean you're right. It just means (like I posted earlier) it's ridiculous.
Stewart
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