Hi guys! I have an '06 f250 crew cab sb with v10, 4wd, 4.10s and auto trans. does anyone know the actual weight of this truck? Im looking at buying a 37' 5th wheel that weighs 11,400 pounds empty. Im just not sure if I am exceeding the truck towing capacity. The owners manual says I have a gcwr of 21,000 pounds. I did a quick search before posting this but didn't find anything. The manual says 21000 gcwr and in parenthesis in same column it says 9525. Is this the weight of my truck? Thanks for any advice!

 

Your truck should be somewhere around 7,500 lbs. To find the as-built weight look at your door sticker and find the maximum payload. Then subtract that from your GVWR to get your empty weight. My '08 had a payload of 1,984 and GVWR of 10,000 lbs, so my empty weight should have been around 8,016 lbs. The couple of times I had it on a scale were pretty close to this.

 

Thanks for the reply! Any recommendations for upgrades for towing that much weight? Maybe brakes or deep trans pan?

 

No and no. A deep transmission pan only helps its manufacturer and an oil company make more money, and your brakes should be more than adequate for the job. The truck's brakes are only responsible for stopping the truck, the trailer brakes are responsible for stopping the trailer.

Does your truck have the integrated brake controller? If not look for a good aftermarket proportional controller like a Tekonsha Prodigy or P3. Otherwise your truck should be ready to tow.

 

Hook up to your trailer and go weigh at a good truck stop. You will then have accurate weights for all axles and tires. Very useful info when setting tire psi.

I think the scale fee is about $6.00 and takes less than 5 minutes.

 

The number in parentheses is kilograms.

Personally, I probably wouldn't go for a fifth wheel that big unless I had a DRW truck.

Is that "empty" number what's stated by the manufacturer, or did you actually put it on a scale and weigh it? The numbers stated by manufacturers are often quite a bit low. The limiting factor with fifth wheels is usually the pin weight, not the GCWR. Pin weight on that thing is probably going to be around 2500 lbs, if not a little more.

Assuming you have the 9900 GVWR and your truck weighs 7500, that leaves you with 2400 lbs for pin weight, passengers, and anything else being hauled in the truck. If your GCWR is 21,000, that leaves you with 13,500 lbs for the trailer plus all passengers and cargo, but chances are you'll be maxed out on pin weight long before you exceed the GCWR.

With that trailer, I'd be willing to bet that once you're all loaded up and ready to roll, you'll be well over both your GCWR and your truck's GVWR.

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I too think you are at the outside limits of that trucks ratings to be legal.

BUT, only one way to know and that is with ACTUAL weights... as stated above go to a scale... my favorites are the cat scales - CAT Scale - $10, 10 minutes and you have a certified printout.

Do your truck alone at first, then go get the rv and within 24 hours the reweigh cost $1 so you have 2 sets of weights with up to 3 weights for the steer axle (front), drive(rear), and trailer. from there you can figure out exactly what you have... glad to go further if you post your weights.

good luck !

 

The factory spec shows the OP's truck as capable of a 14,000 lb trailer. I also think that's a bit optimistic considering the fact that the OP probably doesn't have a stripped down XL truck.

But I don't see why it can't adequately handle an 11,500 lb trailer. At 15% tongue weight he'll have 1,725 lbs on the pin, which will bring his rear axle to around 5,000 lbs out of the 7,000 lb rated capacity. If it squats a bit too much airbags are an easy solution. Senix used to pull his 42' camper with his '08 F250 and never had any stability issues, and he took that thing cross country a few times. He new uses a DRW F350 and was surprised to note that it didn't feel any more stable with the same trailer.

 

empty weight is between 6600 and 7398.

 

11,500 is the trailer's EMPTY weight. We need to know the trailer's GVWR, because the actual weight going down the road is going to be much closer to the GVWR than the empty weight.

Also, from what I've seen, pin weights on these things are usually 20-25%, not 15%.

I'm sure the OP's truck will handle the trailer just fine, but it's most likely going to be exceeding the published limits for the truck. I'd be lying if I said I had never exceeded my GVWR or GCWR, but it seems like the OP is trying to stay within those limits or he wouldn't have created this thread.

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Just for reference, the pic is a CAT scale ticket on my 2012 F350 CC DRW. Ford numbers are bumped from add on tool box plus aux tank.
Good luck.

 

Thanks for all the info guys! I've decided to pass on that trailer. I think it will be too heavy for what I need. Im looking for something a little bit lighter.
Thanks again everyone!