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Old 07-04-2014, 07:48 PM
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What's missing from my accelerator linkage?

51 F4 226 6 cyl. My pedal rod barely pokes through the firewall.

Here's a pic of what I have sticking up through the floor. I'd like to order whatever is missing, but I can't tell from the drawing what goes where or how it's supposed to work.

Looks like I need a 7HC 9738-B Pedal to Accelerator Rod, and the 7HC 9760-B Accelerator to Pedal Rod Spring. Does it look like the 9738 is maybe broken off in the pic? How does that part attach to the 9725 Accelerator Assy? It doesn't look threaded in the drawing.

And where does the *23499-S8 Pedal Stop Carriage Bolt mount? I don't think I have one...

The 33798-S8 and 34806-S is a nut and lock washer and looks like it holds the assembly to the firewall.

The only part I can find for number *9794 is a "Generator Mounting Cup" and that's not what I need...

And I can't find any 8112177 part in my book although I think that would be a common rubber replacement part. Mine is obviously worn down.

Can anyone help?

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Is that the spring in your picture? It just kind of threads on by twisting, likewise the 9738 similarly twists into the spring. It kind of looks like the ball end broke off your 9738.

Accelerator Pedal Seal | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts

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PS -- see if the ball end is stuck inside the rubber socket on the back of your accel pedal
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:25 PM
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Is that the spring in your picture? It just kind of threads on by twisting, likewise the 9738 similarly twists into the spring. It kind of looks like the ball end broke off your 9738.

Accelerator Pedal Seal | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts

PS -- see if the ball end is stuck inside the rubber socket on the back of your accel pedal
Thanks for the links Ross. That's added to my list.

I didn't have a pedal when I got the truck. I just tried to "unscrew" the part that's there and it won't budge. Probably needs to be blasted like everything else. If it is a broken 9738, it's really twisted onto that spring...

I see Dennis Carpenter has all the parts. Thanks again Ross.
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Joe, I have a spring and ball from the '49, if you would want to put anything that old on Betsy. The spring is hard to get off the larger U shaped part. I just went out and took the one off my parts stash. It is yours if you want it.
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Joe, I have a spring and ball from the '49, if you would want to put anything that old on Betsy. The spring is hard to get off the larger U shaped part. I just went out and took the one off my parts stash. It is yours if you want it.
That would be great Ray. I'll PM you my address.
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And I can't find any 8112177 part in my book although I think that would be a common rubber replacement part. Mine is obviously worn down.
You need the 1944/52 body parts catalog to look this number up.

Ford had odd ways of looking up body parts back then.

What the basic part number actually is: 12177 not 8112177

When you look up this number, by adding the body style (81), the prefix and suffix (if any), the entire number will be known.
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You need the 1944/52 body parts catalog to look this number up.

Ford had odd ways of looking up body parts back then.

What the basic part number actually is: 12177 not 8112177

When you look up this number, by adding the body style (81), the prefix and suffix (if any), the entire number will be known.
Wow! Thanks Bill. I keep saying I learn something new everyday. And it's OK if you guys quote me on that.

So, just to be sure I understand, I looked for that number (12177) in my Parts Catalog, and of course you're right Bill, it's not in there.

One of these days (how many times have I said this?) I'm going to take you up on picking up the parts book you offered. But I made my Illustrations and Text catalogs searchable PDFs now, so I am finding things easier.
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Thank you Ray

While I was in Denver this week, I received at home in the mail a gift from Ray... He obviously spent some time cleaning it up before he sent it.

And now that I see what this really looks like, I don't know what I have stuck on the end of the gas pedal rod...

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I've been driving my F-2 for over 20 years with a pedal, just the rod sticking through the floor. The other day while driving the panel I realized I didn't have a pedal in that truck either. I guess I've just come accustomed to it. I do have pedals for both trucks, they're in my parts stash but just have never taken the time to install them.
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I've been driving my F-2 for over 20 years with a pedal, just the rod sticking through the floor. The other day while driving the panel I realized I didn't have a pedal in that truck either. I guess I've just come accustomed to it. I do have pedals for both trucks, they're in my parts stash but just have never taken the time to install them.
I didn't have a pedal when I got the truck. And I ran it in the driveway several times without a pedal. But I put in a new pedal before I ever drove it. Then I noticed when I was working on the transmission that the new pedal was being destroyed by the rod. That stub sticking through the firewall doesn't fit in the cup on the back of the pedal.

So that's when I looked in the parts catalog to see what that stub is supposed to look like, and discovered I have parts missing. I'm not surprised... just learning something new about the truck.
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So, those of you who thought that was just a broken spring packed with dirt were correct. I got the "new" spring and rod in place today. Thanks again Ray!

The pedal now actually sits far enough away from the floor to install a new boot.

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You're more than welcome, Joe. Hope Betsy enjoys and behaves well with her new pieces.
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