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Old 06-29-2014, 09:43 AM
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EPA acknowledges that current emissions standards effect reliability

This may be old news to you guys but I am surprised that the EPA acknowledges the fact that the current imposed emission standards are effecting diesel engine reliability.

It is a shame that they don't care enough about regular people to modify the standards for everyone. It seems that the waiver is only granted for emergency vechiles. (fire trucks and ambulances)

http://www.epa.gov/oms/highway-diese.../420f12025.pdf
 
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:46 PM
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The ultimate emission delete would be to simply delete the EPA altogether.
What a waste of money.
People want clean running vehicles anyways, let manufacturers figure it out on their own without intervention.
 
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Originally Posted by parkland
The ultimate emission delete would be to simply delete the EPA altogether.
What a waste of money.
People want clean running vehicles anyways, let manufacturers figure it out on their own without intervention.
I guess you aren't old enough to remember what the air was like in the 60's.

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F you want to live with bad air, spend some time in China.

The reliability issues are the result of poor program management and bad executive decision making at the manufacturers. Corporate failures.
 
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I'm all for clean air, and while some might call me almost an anarchist I think air pollution regulation is a proper use of the federal government. However, the EPA is out of control and has been for a very long time. It simply does not work having government watermelons dictate technology.

Automotive emissions regulations need to be set by an association like the SAE in partnership with vetted and agreed on pollution specialists.

For example I'm all for catalytic converters and have installed them even when not required to. But the regulation of NOx emissions hurts us a lot for no good reason and CAFE standards are just retarded.
 
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:04 PM
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Trojan argument.. I'm all for it except when I'm against it.
 
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CAFE standards

One wonders how the car manufacturers are going to meet this tremendous incoming MPG requirement jump with the CAFE standards.
 
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I have come to the conclusion this is just a hit job on free and open markets by the socialists who own what they call banks that are running this counterfeiting operation we use to facilitate trade amongst ourselves.

They want most of us on bicycles and using their public transit's systems where they can loot us even further.
 
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I can't disagree with that.
 
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The EPA never gives enough time for new engine technologies to be found. I mean, come on. It's a known FACT that one can stand in a room with a RUNNING diesel and -so long that it's running right- suffer virtually NO serious health effects.

But naturally they have to interfere with a system that worked, introducing Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Yes, DEF exists. Just ask the truckers that keep the good moving lining those environmental yahoo's pockets about it.

DEF is nothing but watered down, dyed cow ****. Literally, when the system has a UREA sensor. And for what, a few HCs? BAH! Of course injecting DEF into the exhaust stream generates NOx just to make life even better.

The EPA is like the IRS. They want results NOW, but don't care to work with others to make them happen.
 
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DEF lowers NOx, not HCs. It is watered-down cow ****, though - 33.4% urea solution or whatever the pct is. Breaks up the NOx in the exhaust stream into benign nitrogen and oxygen.
 
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Originally Posted by E Bjornstad
DEF lowers NOx, not HCs. It is watered-down cow ****, though - 33.4% urea solution or whatever the pct is. Breaks up the NOx in the exhaust stream into benign nitrogen and oxygen.
Yes, but the High NOx is because of the DPF and extra air/fuel to burn the particulate..... Its a big clusterf**k like every piece of emissions equipment. EGR just brings peak combustion temp down to reduce NOx, but in return, you get a less efficient engine. Every single piece of garbage the know-nothings at the EPA regulate onto your vehicle causes efficiency to go down.

These aren't the days of carburetors out of tune on every guzzling vehicle out there, these are the days of EFI, both diesel and gas, and its a simple fact that the less fuel you use, the less emissions you contribute. The EPA needs to disappear and let market forces solve the problem. High gasoline/diesel prices will reduce emissions, its a simple equation.
 
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Originally Posted by RacinNdrummin
High gasoline/diesel prices will reduce emissions, its a simple equation.
High fuel prices also lead to holding on to older vehicles that pollute more though.
 
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High fuel prices also lead to holding on to older vehicles that pollute more though.
Not when you can buy a replacement that gets twice the MPG.
 
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but who can afford $65,000 for a truck?
 


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