6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Opinion on truck

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #31  
Old 06-24-2014, 03:33 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
There are some nice paint to match pod mounts for it also.

Then you can tuck the wire under the dash.

Sean
 
  #32  
Old 06-24-2014, 09:12 PM
fordboy2's Avatar
fordboy2
fordboy2 is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: freeland, mi
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
Well if I end up with the truckmi dont have the wind shield mount. Can I buy one some where? I will look into the lillar mount. Wonder if it would work with gauges as I still plan t run analog boost, egt and pyro gauges.
 
  #33  
Old 06-24-2014, 10:18 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
You may be able to find a mount on Ebay.


Sean
 
  #34  
Old 06-26-2014, 10:31 AM
fordboy2's Avatar
fordboy2
fordboy2 is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: freeland, mi
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
How long should it take to change the o rings on the stand pipes? Is there any good links to how to do it ? The ones I have found are not the best. My mechanic wants 500 to do it. Is that a fair price?
 
  #35  
Old 06-26-2014, 02:58 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
$500 NO WAY in my book.
All you have to do is remove the valve cover and
they are right in your face. I'll dig-up a PDF for you
later tonight that will tell you what you need to do.
The update kit comes all ready to install and all you
need to do is put oil on the rings,slide then in and torque.

Sean
 
  #36  
Old 06-26-2014, 03:16 PM
MisterCMK's Avatar
MisterCMK
MisterCMK is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Blue Hill Township
Posts: 24,705
Received 53 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by fordboy2
How long should it take to change the o rings on the stand pipes? Is there any good links to how to do it ? The ones I have found are not the best. My mechanic wants 500 to do it. Is that a fair price?
That's parts and labor?

Sent from my Telegraph using IB AutoGroup
 
  #37  
Old 06-26-2014, 03:36 PM
Rusty Axlerod's Avatar
Rusty Axlerod
Rusty Axlerod is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama)
Posts: 8,228
Received 136 Likes on 80 Posts
If your '05 and the '06 take the same standpipes & plugs, they have been updated. The originals have just an o-ring where the updates have a wider groove with Teflon back-up ring behind the o-ring to keep it from squirming around and wearing as the pressure fluctuates. It's worth the bucks to replace them.

This is the parts counter price at my local Ford dealer. Better prices can be had online.

6E7Z-9A332-A. Stand pipes (seals pre-installed 2each) list$145.66 I pay $95.00.

W302908. Dummy plugs (seals pre-installed 2 each). list$47.16. I pay $35.38.

I agree $500 sounds a little high but many shops are getting that kind of money these days. If it includes parts it's not too bad.
 
  #38  
Old 06-26-2014, 05:43 PM
fordboy2's Avatar
fordboy2
fordboy2 is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: freeland, mi
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
It includes parts but he works out of his house so I would expect a little off from the ford dealer. What little bit I have found on it, sounds easy to do. I have done head gaskets and engine installs on many cars so I am a capable mechanic. I wonder if I will already have the upgraded stand pipes in there. Since the head gaskets were done twice once by a Ford dealer seems they would have updated them.
 
  #39  
Old 06-26-2014, 05:45 PM
fordboy2's Avatar
fordboy2
fordboy2 is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: freeland, mi
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Rusty Axlerod
If your '05 and the '06 take the same standpipes & plugs, they have been updated. The originals have just an o-ring where the updates have a wider groove with Teflon back-up ring behind the o-ring to keep it from squirming around and wearing as the pressure fluctuates. It's worth the bucks to replace them.

This is the parts counter price at my local Ford dealer. Better prices can be had online.

6E7Z-9A332-A. Stand pipes (seals pre-installed 2each) list$145.66 I pay $95.00.

W302908. Dummy plugs (seals pre-installed 2 each). list$47.16. I pay $35.38.

I agree $500 sounds a little high but many shops are getting that kind of money these days. If it includes parts it's not too bad.
Could I buy just the o rings? Or is it recommended to change the stand pipes?
 
  #40  
Old 06-26-2014, 05:55 PM
Rusty Axlerod's Avatar
Rusty Axlerod
Rusty Axlerod is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama)
Posts: 8,228
Received 136 Likes on 80 Posts
I don't know. I haven't seen a number for a reseal kit but maybe there is one. I would think the pipes and plugs would still be ok. Be sure it includes the Teflon ring if the upgrade has already been done.
 
  #41  
Old 06-26-2014, 06:00 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
The D-rings not O-rings in this case are very stiff and
once you get them in place have to rest for a while
so they can relax back into size. The reason they are
called D-rings is they are flat on one side unlike an
O-ring that is curved all the way around.
Someone will correct me if I am wrong. I think
that new head gasket kits come with new standpipes
and dummy plugs.

Sean

EDIT : I checked with Ford and new head gasket kits come with
new standpipes but not any dummy plugs.
 
  #42  
Old 06-26-2014, 06:17 PM
Rusty Axlerod's Avatar
Rusty Axlerod
Rusty Axlerod is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama)
Posts: 8,228
Received 136 Likes on 80 Posts
Do you have a number for the seal(s). My limited experience is pulling the old style pipes/plugs out and putting the new style in. As you know in aviation this is fairly common arrangement. The Teflon/o-ring set up is inside the female half of most quick disconnect fittings. We do change the seals sometimes (in my real job) but it's usually for a knicked o-ring from someone mating up the QD's crooked when putting stuff back together. We always use a new Teflon back-up ring also. You explanation of the D ring makes sense, I guess the flat part rests on the Teflon ring?
 
  #43  
Old 06-26-2014, 06:29 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
I am with my mother she needed some eye stuff done.
So I don't have access to all my photos at home. I will
post a photo of the old style D-ring. I wished I could
say what the part number for the replacements is but
I have not been in and needed to do that yet.
I think next time I am in IH I will ask.

Sean
 
  #44  
Old 06-26-2014, 07:48 PM
fordboy2's Avatar
fordboy2
fordboy2 is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: freeland, mi
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
If the head gasket kit comes with new stand pipes and not dummy plugs I wonder if the dummy plugs are leaking. This thought since the head gaskets only have 20000 miles on them. Of coarse maybe it was assembled incorrectly. But it was done at a Ford dealer.
 
  #45  
Old 06-26-2014, 07:50 PM
fordboy2's Avatar
fordboy2
fordboy2 is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: freeland, mi
Posts: 2,298
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
Typically when you take the valve cover off is it visually obvious what's leaking?
 


Quick Reply: Opinion on truck



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:48 AM.