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Old 06-11-2014, 08:52 AM
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DEF in a 6.0??

Hey guys, i'm normally on the 80-86 forums but decided to pop over here real quick and ask a question.

Forgive me if this has already been asked before...

Is it possible to make an older Powerstroke able to use Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF)??

The reason why i'm asking is that my dad and I recently rented a new Ram with a Cummins to go on an extended road trip, and I noticed that the truck takes DEF, and I also noticed that while it's running, there's no 'diesel smell' coming from the tail pipe!! I was amazed!!

Both my dad and I are a little allergic to diesel fumes, so driving a diesel truck has never been something we'd consider, but the mileage and quietness of that diesel motor plus the added bonus of no fumes, it has changed our view of diesel trucks.

I personally like the 99-07 Super Duties, and if I can make one into a non-smelly truck, then that'll have to be my next truck.

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Old 06-11-2014, 08:55 AM
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I'm sure you could with lots of time and money. The 6.0s have an emissions system on it, so naturally, they are less smelly then a 7.3.

Oh, the newer diesels stink way worse when the regen!!!
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Oh, the newer diesels stink way worse when the regen!!!
What do you mean by newer diesels? Do you mean the 6.7's? Because I know those have DEF, and don't stink either.
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What do you mean by newer diesels? Do you mean the 6.7's? Because I know those have DEF, and don't stink either.
Yep, the 6.4s, 6.7s, and the 6.7 Cummins, when the regen, they about make me puke. And thats even in the air 20 feet above them.
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On my 6.0 the only time I smell diesel is when I fill up, change fuel filters, and when I had the leak on the fuel regulator cover before I fixed it.
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But if the new 6.7 Powerstrokes use DEF, is there still a need for it to regen?

Please forgive me, but I am a complete diesel newby. Don't know much about them at all. Not familiar with common issues, or behavior of them either.

Rather than ask you what regen was, I googled it so I learned something there .
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On my 6.0 the only time I smell diesel is when I fill up, change fuel filters, and when I had the leak on the fuel regulator cover before I fixed it.
What about if you're working behind or around it? Won't it smell pretty good while, let's just use an example: hooking up a trailer?
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Even if they don't regen, they stink after working around the within an hour while using the PTO function.
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The half of the question that wasn't answered is noise -- we kinda find it sweet, but you aren't going to make it quiet like the new trucks as most of it is under the hood. I'd go check out the 6.7 forum -- all those guys talk about is how humongous their trailers are, not much is breaking on the latest ones.

And they are really quiet, if that is part of what you want
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What about if you're working behind or around it? Won't it smell pretty good while, let's just use an example: hooking up a trailer?
Nope. You get exhaust smell but it's not the diesel stink. Least not to me.
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The half of the question that wasn't answered is noise -- we kinda find it sweet, but you aren't going to make it quiet like the new trucks as most of it is under the hood. I'd go check out the 6.7 forum -- all those guys talk about is how humongous their trailers are, not much is breaking on the latest ones.

And they are really quiet, if that is part of what you want
That is kind of part of it, but honestly...i'm kind of a fan of the noise the 6.0's make. Especially when they have something done where you can hear the turbo whistle, not sure what it takes to get that sound, but I do enjoy that for sure.

My main beef is with the smell, and was just curious of if it could be done to a 6.0?
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Nope. You get exhaust smell but it's not the diesel stink. Least not to me.
That's what i'm talking about, the exhaust smell.

When we took our road trip and were hooking up the trailer, I was fully prepared to be sneezing and coughing the rest of the way there, but because of the DEF, I couldn't smell ANY exhaust smell!!

That's why i'm curious if it can be done to an older truck. From what I can gather, all that is happening is the DEF is being lightly sprayed into the hot exhaust which then causes a chemical reaction where the only thing coming from the tail pipe is nitrogen and oxygen.
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That's what i'm talking about, the exhaust smell.

When we took our road trip and were hooking up the trailer, I was fully prepared to be sneezing and coughing the rest of the way there, but because of the DEF, I couldn't smell ANY exhaust smell!!

That's why i'm curious if it can be done to an older truck. From what I can gather, all that is happening is the DEF is being lightly sprayed into the hot exhaust which then causes a chemical reaction where the only thing coming from the tail pipe is nitrogen and oxygen.
Well I supose if your problem is exhaust smell not really diesel smell then yeah it has it. I personally havent huffed one of the new 6.7s but It makes sense. I do know those systems they use are VERY EXPENSIVE to repair so could only imagine the price to try and engineer and retro fit a 6.0.
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Well I supose if your problem is exhaust smell not really diesel smell then yeah it has it. I personally havent huffed one of the new 6.7s but It makes sense. I do know those systems they use are VERY EXPENSIVE to repair so could only imagine the price to try and engineer and retro fit a 6.0.
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As someone who grew up on IDIs, I can tell you the 6.0 has a lot less diesel exhaust smell than older diesels, even without using DEF. If you want smelly, try working around an old GM 6.2 -- or better yet, a Deuce and a half.
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