Sigh. Today's generation.

Growing up before the internet, we had encyclopedias. The writers and contributors and editors to the content contained therein held doctorate degrees from accredited institutions, career experience in the relevant industry or endeavor, and were otherwise well vetted experts in their respective fields. Encyclopedias were expensive, not free. It costs money to validate information.

On the other hand, ANYONE with internet access can write or edit Wikipedia. Including you. In fact, you can edit whatever article you just read right now, and add a line about how "there has never been a powerstroke in an F650 until 2015". It will take the editors at Wikipedia weeks before questioning the source of your edit, if they ever do. And thus an untruth would remain on Wikipedia for the next person to come along and be misinformed by.

How about checking with Ford for your facts? Wouldn't it stand to reason that Ford would be a better resource to consult concerning what engines Ford offered in their trucks?

 

Hey I gave a source to back me up .. Give me a book to look up that proves your point and I'll go look at it other wise you have no proof to your clam

 

And to add to that even if they did put a 7.3 in one the 5.9 still puts out more hp and torque then the 7.3 dose so the truck would be even worse with the 7.3 inside and I got the specs from a powerstroke site

 

I specifically chose not to "post proof" on purpose. My proving to be "right" is not at all important. I think in your particular case you will be far better served in the long run seeking out the information yourself, rather than being spoon fed.

If you do, what you will eventually find is that Ford not only offered the 7.3L in the F-650 and F-750, they also offered the 6.0L Powerstroke in the same medium duty chassis, over a decade earlier than the "first powerstroke in an F650 was in 2015" claim you reported you found in Wikipedia.

 

Ok then tell me ware you found this and I'll look it up but I would rather take info from the Wikipedia them you no offence.

 

And I have searched out information for my self I really don't care if they put a powerstroke in a f650 logically they should have I have just never seen one or have heard of one till now.. But all I have said from the beginning of my post is that the 5.9 24 valve cummins is better then the 7.3 32 valve powerstroke and that's why is in the f650 weather it works good or not in it

 

This question is evidently about 20 times more exciting to you than it would be to anybody else.

 

No offence taken!

I'm glad you were able to find the information for yourself, and were also able to see how Wikipedia is not to be relied upon entirely.

I suggested that you check your facts first... because you earlier refuted Tom by saying that Ford never put a 7.3L in an F650, and later said Ford never put a powerstroke period in an F650 (until this year with the 6.7).

Below is a Ford / Motorcraft maintenance item sell sheet for the older F-650 and F-750s. While Ford no longer sells the trucks with these old engines, Ford / Motorcraft still sells the maintenance parts, so this info is readily revealed in the first page of any search results using the relevant terms.

I didn't need to search, because I've personally seen the 2000 - 2003 F-650/750s with the 7.3L when they were new. I have the paper printed order guides and body builder manuals for them also. But I can completely understand how you would want to see this information online, and you can, on Ford's fleet website. More detail than you say you care about, but it's out there.

 

Ok thank you I am wrong you guys are right this is the first I have heard of a powerstroke inside one of them..and I want you guys to know I have nothing agents powerstroke it is still a good motor besides maybe the 6.0 or 6.4 stock.. I'm just saying the cummins is a better motor

 

I drive a '06 f-750 service truck with the 5.9 Cummins,260 hp, 7 spd, 230,000 miles , over 9,200 hours on the hour meter. This truck runs by our newer '13 Maxi-Force, 300 hp auto, hard in the hills and on top end, and unlike the Maxi -Force which has blown up twice in less than 80,000 miles( Once it needed a new long block), the 5.9 has only had the alternator, starter and A/C clutch replaced. don't see any advantage to the International diesel. I don't get me started about the F-550 6.0 either. Drive what you want to , live is too short, I don't like to walk.
Duhnis

 

I agree. I think if the 7.3 or 6.0 really are better then the 5.9 they wouldn't have spent the money to put the 5.9 in there trucks.

 

#1., Go back and read my post on 6/2/2014. That is the reason.
#2., We have a 2005 F-650 with a 6.0L Powerstroke in our fleet. We also wish we didn't. It's far worse than any 5.9L Cummins powered Ford 650 we have.

 

This thread was amusing. I’ve seen cummins in 450/550/650/750 94-03 and 09-15 go to a truck bone yard especially at Eubanks in Richmond va. You’ll find em all day turbos injector lines heads all ford/navistar stamped for a 5.9 or 6.7. You’re literally comparing a v8 that was always in competition to an i6. The 5.9 ltr was in production longer than the 7.3 and had different applications from highway to marine energy agriculture and construction. The 7.3 was a great engine but the greatest? No and that’s according to a lot of diesel experts and technicians.

Now, Ford used cummins engines for a lot of reason the two main were reliability and fuel economy. If you look into the stock ford bought, they bought 10% in 1990. Why? This has been cloudy but it was a simple loophole so cummins didn’t break the exclusive contract with dodge. Ford wanted the motor as an option and in 97, when dodge was introduced the 5.9 24v for production year 98.5, cummins bought their stock back and it’s cloudy also but i believe with the newer engine they lessened the contract to sell the motor to more companies. I’ve driven an fl 70 with a 5.9. International 4700 with a 5.9. A f750 dump bed with a 5.9 etc.

Being a diesel owner brings a lot of pride. That’s understandable, but s\!+ talking with lil facts besides your personal experiences is kind of petty. I have a d350 with almost 600k bought at 196k. She’s been in the shop less times in ten years than most of you have been in the shop in 1. Doesn’t mean she’s gods gift.

 

Hmmmm, your first sentence is incorrect. Ford never put the 5.9 into the F450 or F550. Being this thread is almost two years old, I haven't read most of the other comments since I made mine a long time ago but for your first post here calling out people about their personal experiences is a little harsh don't you think? Most of what you have stated is either your personal experience or opinion.

 

also. 7,3 was first put in ford trucks in 88.,with the 6.9 being used since 83.
5.9 was first put in dodge trucks in 89