Roll bar for 96 f-150
#16
I don't know anything about "red band oilfield pipe" But the rule is to never use pipe for a roll cage or other structural uses, but to use steel tubing. Not sure of the exact reasons or the relative strength ratings. My guess is that pipe doesn't have the ductility and is more likely to break rather than bend in an impact.
There is blue,yellow,green and red paint aplied to the pipe when removed from the well.
Blue,yellow and green are ok for service still.
Red is not. Red can be from to thin for service to hole in side( really a crack from the pressure)
Or it's pitted from corrosion.
Any red band( red paint band) pipe that is still strong is sold to welding shops.
That's where I got mine from.
I cannot say how ductile it is cause I'm not a professional welder or fabricator and haven't compared it to Dom or chromoly exept for price.
I got mine for 50 cents a foot.
#17
I did a brief internet search and found several discussions on different boards of using schedule 40 pipe vs DOM tubing for roll bars / cages. Considering my sources I'm sure the information is completely reliable
With that intro, what I found is that some people say never ever use pipe while others say it can be as good or in some applications even better.
The downsides of pipe seem to be:
The upsides to pipe seem to be:
So maybe it's not so cut-and-dried that pipe isn't acceptable for roll bars / cages. Personally I still think I'd stay away from it, but apparently there are quite a few cages out there that have worked well for people.
With that intro, what I found is that some people say never ever use pipe while others say it can be as good or in some applications even better.
The downsides of pipe seem to be:
- brittle so it cracks when hit hard enough, possibly even creating shrapnel
- if galvanized it doesn't weld well (solution to this is to use black gas pipe rather than galvanized water pipe)
- heavier per foot due to thicker wall
The upsides to pipe seem to be:
- cheaper
- stronger due to thicker wall (but not universally agreed upon)
- more wear resistant so it holds up better as a rock slider (makes sense to me if it's more brittle, that usually means it's harder)
- doesn't dent when hit (again makes sense if it's more brittle, it won't deform when hit until it's hit hard enough to break it)
So maybe it's not so cut-and-dried that pipe isn't acceptable for roll bars / cages. Personally I still think I'd stay away from it, but apparently there are quite a few cages out there that have worked well for people.
#18
ROLL bar or a bar to mount lights?
A HUGE difference
This is a LIGHT bar
Go Rhino® - Mazda B-Series 1986-1993 Bed Bars
This is a ROLL bar
S&W-11-3581 Ford 92-96 F150 & Lightning Pickup Truck 10 Point Roll Cage 1 5/8"
A HUGE difference
This is a LIGHT bar
Go Rhino® - Mazda B-Series 1986-1993 Bed Bars
This is a ROLL bar
S&W-11-3581 Ford 92-96 F150 & Lightning Pickup Truck 10 Point Roll Cage 1 5/8"
I'm wanting a roll bar
#20
I did a brief internet search and found several discussions on different boards of using schedule 40 pipe vs DOM tubing for roll bars / cages. Considering my sources I'm sure the information is completely reliable
With that intro, what I found is that some people say never ever use pipe while others say it can be as good or in some applications even better.
The downsides of pipe seem to be:
The upsides to pipe seem to be:
So maybe it's not so cut-and-dried that pipe isn't acceptable for roll bars / cages. Personally I still think I'd stay away from it, but apparently there are quite a few cages out there that have worked well for people.
With that intro, what I found is that some people say never ever use pipe while others say it can be as good or in some applications even better.
The downsides of pipe seem to be:
- brittle so it cracks when hit hard enough, possibly even creating shrapnel
- if galvanized it doesn't weld well (solution to this is to use black gas pipe rather than galvanized water pipe)
- heavier per foot due to thicker wall
The upsides to pipe seem to be:
- cheaper
- stronger due to thicker wall (but not universally agreed upon)
- more wear resistant so it holds up better as a rock slider (makes sense to me if it's more brittle, that usually means it's harder)
- doesn't dent when hit (again makes sense if it's more brittle, it won't deform when hit until it's hit hard enough to break it)
So maybe it's not so cut-and-dried that pipe isn't acceptable for roll bars / cages. Personally I still think I'd stay away from it, but apparently there are quite a few cages out there that have worked well for people.
There are offroad parks out there that *will* bar you from entry with a pipe rollbar.
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