Just replaced oil cooler again, still high delta
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Just replaced oil cooler again, still high delta (updated 1/20/18)2
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I bulletproofed my '06 last fall. Studs, EGR delete, new Sinister oil cooler, 4" cat back, Livewire with ID tunes, blue springs, thermostat, etc. I noticed immediately that my ECT-EOT deltas were kinda high 190 vs 206 (16 degree avg) at 65 mph. So I flushed the system with Restore and Restore plus and changed to using ZEREX ELC diesel coolant and installed a coolant filter. Still no change. Sinister and I had been exchanging ideas about the issue, and when my EOT went to 235 coming up afton mtn, they decided to sent my a new (Sinister) cooler.
Installed the new cooler last night and was excited to drive it and see my deltas fall back to WNL. Didn't happen, my temps did not change. Delta still hovering around 16. Dealer tech checked my Livewire temp readings against his Ford computer and they were identical. WHAT GIVES?? What else could be causing this issue? Does the sinister cooler allow for greater deltas? At least when the EOT climbs to excessive (ie 235) the cooler does drop the temps back down fairly quickly once the load is relieved.
-I'm tempted to just accept this as the new normal, since 2 new coolers are both giving me this temp spread, especially since the EGR has been removed. Your thoughts, advice and guidance are welcome. Thanks
I bulletproofed my '06 last fall. Studs, EGR delete, new Sinister oil cooler, 4" cat back, Livewire with ID tunes, blue springs, thermostat, etc. I noticed immediately that my ECT-EOT deltas were kinda high 190 vs 206 (16 degree avg) at 65 mph. So I flushed the system with Restore and Restore plus and changed to using ZEREX ELC diesel coolant and installed a coolant filter. Still no change. Sinister and I had been exchanging ideas about the issue, and when my EOT went to 235 coming up afton mtn, they decided to sent my a new (Sinister) cooler.
Installed the new cooler last night and was excited to drive it and see my deltas fall back to WNL. Didn't happen, my temps did not change. Delta still hovering around 16. Dealer tech checked my Livewire temp readings against his Ford computer and they were identical. WHAT GIVES?? What else could be causing this issue? Does the sinister cooler allow for greater deltas? At least when the EOT climbs to excessive (ie 235) the cooler does drop the temps back down fairly quickly once the load is relieved.
-I'm tempted to just accept this as the new normal, since 2 new coolers are both giving me this temp spread, especially since the EGR has been removed. Your thoughts, advice and guidance are welcome. Thanks
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I just replaced my cooler also, unfortuntly i didnt get sinister, but ended up getting the "upgraded" ford cooler (it has one more plate in it...whoopie doo). Ive noticed the same thing. My delta is about the same as it was before. This thought popped in my head, what about the temp sending unit. Could it be bad? The other day I was loaded up too 23k gross and it didnt like the hills at all, puked coolant just like it did before.This just after i had the oil cooler replaced, egr cooler replaced, ipr valve, and a few other things. I also had the ficm sent out to ficmrepair, got that fixed and tuned with an atlas tune. So i realize im making a little more heat, but grrr this puking is bugging me. Im trying my best to check/look for anything else before i hang my head and make plans for head gaskets and studds. Oh and i put a mbrp 4" from the wheel back on it.
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I just replaced my cooler also, unfortuntly i didnt get sinister, but ended up getting the "upgraded" ford cooler (it has one more plate in it...whoopie doo). Ive noticed the same thing. My delta is about the same as it was before. This thought popped in my head, what about the temp sending unit. Could it be bad? The other day I was loaded up too 23k gross and it didnt like the hills at all, puked coolant just like it did before.This just after i had the oil cooler replaced, egr cooler replaced, ipr valve, and a few other things. I also had the ficm sent out to ficmrepair, got that fixed and tuned with an atlas tune. So i realize im making a little more heat, but grrr this puking is bugging me. Im trying my best to check/look for anything else before i hang my head and make plans for head gaskets and studds. Oh and i put a mbrp 4" from the wheel back on it.
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I bulletproofed my '06 last fall. Studs, EGR delete, new Sinister oil cooler, 4" cat back, Livewire with ID tunes, blue springs, thermostat, etc. I noticed immediately that my ECT-EOT deltas were kinda high 190 vs 206 (16 degree avg) at 65 mph. So I flushed the system with Restore and Restore plus and changed to using ZEREX ELC diesel coolant and installed a coolant filter. Still no change. Sinister and I had been exchanging ideas about the issue, and when my EOT went to 235 coming up afton mtn, they decided to sent my a new (Sinister) cooler.
Installed the new cooler last night and was excited to drive it and see my deltas fall back to WNL. Didn't happen, my temps did not change. Delta still hovering around 16. Dealer tech checked my Livewire temp readings against his Ford computer and they were identical. WHAT GIVES?? What else could be causing this issue? Does the sinister cooler allow for greater deltas? At least when the EOT climbs to excessive (ie 235) the cooler does drop the temps back down fairly quickly once the load is relieved.
-I'm tempted to just accept this as the new normal, since 2 new coolers are both giving me this temp spread, especially since the EGR has been removed. Your thoughts, advice and guidance are welcome. Thanks
Installed the new cooler last night and was excited to drive it and see my deltas fall back to WNL. Didn't happen, my temps did not change. Delta still hovering around 16. Dealer tech checked my Livewire temp readings against his Ford computer and they were identical. WHAT GIVES?? What else could be causing this issue? Does the sinister cooler allow for greater deltas? At least when the EOT climbs to excessive (ie 235) the cooler does drop the temps back down fairly quickly once the load is relieved.
-I'm tempted to just accept this as the new normal, since 2 new coolers are both giving me this temp spread, especially since the EGR has been removed. Your thoughts, advice and guidance are welcome. Thanks
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Also, help me wrap my head around this issue. How does the OC bypass valve in the filter housing affect temps?
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I cannot remember if that piece is available separate or a new base is needed.
Josh
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Sorry, on my tablet...can't post multiple links on 1 post
http://psdparts.com/store/index.php?...roducts_id=288
http://psdparts.com/store/index.php?...roducts_id=288