Someone mentioned that the 15's are being rushed to market either in this thread or another 2015 thread. I don't see it that way. Ford distributed some aluminum body 2011 trucks to hard working mining companies and we've yet to read anything negative.

The 2.7L isn't ground breaking by any means. The 3.5L paved the way for the 2.7L to succeed.

The eight speed is being jointly developed by GM and Ford. GM has stated that they intend for a 2016 launch, there's no reason why Ford can't do likewise.

I've read in truck trend that the small diesels in Europe aren't holding up under continued hard use. Not sure if these engines are as well built as the ecoboost engines. The ecodiesel is rated at 420 tq, 240 hp and 9200 lbs towing with an MPG range of 20 and 28. Just like on the ecoboost engines, the jury is out as to how well it will hold up under continued use.

 

Like any commercial that shows people who are driving Fords are either scripted or they edit out any negative comments. My biggest complaint about the 3.5L EcoBoost is where they put the oil filter...right in front of the engine but when the truck is on a lift at my work and its a 4x4 with skid plates...one it makes it much harder to get to it. Really the one nice thing but I also don't like is they have kind of a gutter system for the oil to drain into a pan, but at my wok we have to clean up every bit of oil that was drained so it doesn't look like any oil is leaking and we get yelled at and possibly fired. The chutes are difficult to clean even with a rag. So they need to make them maybe instead of a 1/4" wide they go 1/2" or a bit larger.

 

The new 2015 f150 is 700 lbs lighter do to the new hight tec metal frame and light weight body made with alluminum. Since 100lbs of lost weight represent 10 hp gain. So the f150 gains 70 horse on estimated power of the 2.7 of 300 hp in theory is 370 hp meaning the light weight of truck has a higher towing rating to previous f150 and the MPG is the size of engine 27 mpg . Only bad thing I see is the price of high tec !

 

Welcome to FTE!

I can see your logic when it's referring to existing engines that will migrate from the 2014 trucks to the 2015 model. The 2.7L was built for the 2015.

Let us also not forget that the F-series trucks are the heaviest trucks on the market. The "up to" 700 pound weight loss will get the F-150's back to where the competition is. Ford stated that payload and tow ratings will increase pound for pound.

 

I look forward to the ratings increases.

 

wha' old Tim said.

 

I have not seen anything like that. Please provide a link about the small diesels having problems.

The 3.0L diesel has been out for over 3 years (2 in the US) and so far the problems are minimal. Also as with most diesels, the actual mileage being reported by users is at or above what the vehicle is rated at while I have not heard of anyone being able to get the Ecoboost mileage the vehicle is rated as.

 

Here's one shining example: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...9SqYuqVuvnPUeg

 

Tim-

That's a pretty lame article.
Having said that I would agree that most German marques are not as reliable as a Honda but then again I would also say the same thing about Ford ( No flaming please). People usually don't buy an Audi for their reliability....

The article did not mention diesels at all so the article is a mute point to the discussion. Although I tried top find the complete article I wasn't able but it did not mention Ford either......

 

Best guess:

EB 2.7 will get 26-27MPG in 2x4 config depending on the gearing.

25-26MPG in 4x4 config. It will out perform the current 3.7 liter version, no doubt of that.


Some of your rumors are off as well.

Ford built a prototype with the 2.0 liter EB motor, and drove it around Texas for a while. The feedback was it felt gutless. So they decided that whatever motor they were going to use it had to be equal or greater than the ability of current 3.7 liter.

So the new 2015 model is 700lbs lighter.

The base motor is the 3.5 liter non-Ecoboost.

The max fuel economy motor is the EB 2.7 liter

The 5.0 is still around because of its duel use in the mustang. Probably 22-23MPG at the new weight.

The high end option is the EB 3.5 liter, which with the weight drop should be just sick to drive. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw 23-24MPG out of a 4x4 with this motor depending on gearing.

 

Drive 60mph on the freeway and drive like you have an egg on the skinny pedal and you could get mid 20s I bet without too much effort...least on longer trips.

 

#1 Ford lied about the 3.5 EB gas mileage, at Fuelly - Track and Compare your MPG the average is 16.9
#2 Consumer Reports claim the gas mileage is the same on the 3.5 EB and 5.0 V8
#3 The 2013-14 Eco-Boost has modified inner coolers where they no longer produce the horsepower and torque numbers like the 2011-12 Eco-Boost has.
Conclusion: Ford lied about the numbers of the 3.5 EB do you trust them about the MPG the 2.7 EB ?

The Ram 1500 4x4 5.7 HEMI and the 2014 Chevy V8 are getting 19 MPG with engine deactivation ( better than the eco-boost ) Ford would have been better off keeping the 5.4 engine and converting it to engine deactivation. The V6 is just too small to pull around a 5200 lb truck and you won't get the gas mileage from a small engine when you have to floor it all the time just to make the speed limit.

 

Anyone tow 7300 lbs with their EB lately? I towed 7300lbs yesterday in hills. For 3 hours. I got 12.9mpg out of the 5.0L.

Driving out with only the 2000lb trailer I got 18.

EB is a fraud.

 

I agree with all of the above.
To back up your claims. I consistently get mid 18 to low 19 mpg per tank out of my 2014 Hemi. This is my work truck based on in town driving with a pretty even split of stop and go along with intown freeway driving. With various light payloads thrown in.

There are 3 types of EB owners.
#1 the ones who are fine with it.
#2 the ones who are vocally unhappy with it.
#3 the ones who are too proud and stubborn to admit they got duped and will continue justify EB to the bitter end.

Ford should concentrate on making better, stronger, more efficient V8s for TRUCKS. Along with weight savings, they'd have an awesome offering if they would do that. Instead they've doubled down on EB in their trucks.
Not saying there's not a placed for EB but it should be in much smaller vehicles.

 

A lot of people are still saying the new truck is 700 lbs lighter. NO. Ford claims UP TO 700lbs. We know how truthful Fords claims are.
Actual weight loss will vary from configuration and from trim level. Sure the trucks will drop some lbs... but real world weight savings is NOT going to be 700lbs per truck. If it is I would be extremely surprised and I would give it up to Ford.....but it won't.