I live in pa and I'm looking at a 2015 F350 duly and I have a 13000 pound excavator, looking at 30 ft goseneck I have 2 questions is this truck big enough to do the job and what gvrw trailer do I need

 

GVWR would need to be the weight of the empty trailer plus the weight of the load, so you would just need to talk to the trailer dealer to see what you need.

Then you need to add that to the weight of the truck with all your stuff in it and full of fuel to see if the GCWR is enough.

But, it's not the DOT regs in Pa as much as it is the Pa regs, from what I've seen posted on here.

Glad I don't live there or have to worry with them.

 

As far as the truck being big enough. Can't see why not.

 

Here in PA I was told they go off the sticker weight on the door of the truck and the sticker weight on the trailer. to get a trailer heavy enough to carry that excavator will go over 31900 gcwr I would need a 20,000 gvwr trailor add the 14,000 of the truck that's 34,000 I just don't understand it's mythical weight they go off of. I I figured that actual weight that I would be towing with 2000 pound extra will be around 28,000.

 

There is nothing official about the numbers in your owners guide. But the numbers on the sticker inside the door as well as on the trailer are. Of course each state is different, but most states I've seen and heard about will only check to ensure that you are under GVWR of your truck and trailer, as well as all GAWRs. That's the easy part.

The hard part is that, unless your state has some kind of exemption you may fall under, you will require a Class A CDL to operate that rig. With that you'll need to comply with all of the regulations your state imposes on intrastate commercial transportation, or what the Federal government imposes on interstate commerce. If you're moving it between states you will definitely require a CDL, a DOT number, and a whole slew of other compliance items.

 

It's really not "mythical" at all. It's the empty weight of the truck and trailer combined with the load capacity to come up with the gross rating.

So, if that exceeds the ratings of the truck then you need a larger truck or lighter trailer with the capacity to haul the load.

Does anyone build an aluminum trailer to suit your needs?

 

Here in PA, if the trailer is registered for over 10k lbs, the truck has to be registered for the combination weight. That puts your truck in a weight class 9.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...rms/mv-70s.pdf

Two primary rules for PA weight regs;

1) You can't be over your registered weight, and

2) You can't be over your vehicle weight ratings, which usually means axle weights.

You can register a vehicle for a weight less than what it is rated for. But that registered weight becomes your max.

 

At 26k, you cross over into CDL/non-CDL Class A license territory. That's a whole rat's nest I try to avoid.

 

I agree with most of this stuff... The truck will hold the weight, will tow it great, and will be within ratings for weight. The thing you need will be a Tandem Dually gooseneck trailer or if you could fit the excavator on a lower deck with the wheels outside of the loading deck you could get a triple axle trailer rated for 20-30k. As far as PA licensing and regulations i dont know about those as i live in TX and if it fits it drives down here.

Good luck!

 

I know I will need CDL with this truck, I have an 2011 single wheel now with a 25ft 17,000 gooseneck trailer now, that I have been pulling the excavator for 4 years now, just trying to get legal if they are going by the imaginary number sticker instead of real number it don't look like the 350 Dully will be legal because you would need a least a 20,000 pound trailer to do the job (20,000-trailer weight=13,14,000) if you go by sticker weight and government rule you can only have a 17,500 trailer that would get you close to the 31900 gcwr you would only be able to haul around 12,500. I think I have this right let me know if I'm wrong

 

First of all the truck will handle that just fine. I have a 2014 dually and my manual says my GCWVR is 30,500. You will be under that weight.
Truck about 8200lbs.
Trailer guessing 8000lbs.
Machine 13000lbs
Total 29,200lbs
You will need a CDL, no way around that. And like thomabb said: register your truck with a class 9 weight class sticker. I have a class 5 and I know I should have a class 9. A class 9 sticker is probably $500 a year. Make sure you have the correct binders and chains and the correct number of chains because the State Police will look at everything. If they are driving by and notice something wrong they will turn around. Make sure you have the correct insurance.
Where in PA are you? I went to a seminar this winter and learned a lot about Pa regulations.

 

So what your say they don't go by tuck sticker is 14,000 trailer 20,000 = 34,000 over, they will go by the actual weight 28500 is the real weight it will be thanks for the info

 

They do carry potable scales but I doubt they are capable of that much weight. They can and sometimes do escort you to the nearest scale. When at the seminar I mentioned earlier, the Trooper gave an example of doing just that. He knew the guy was over weight and needed it to be official to give out fines. So yes they do go by the sticker on the door jamb and the trailer weight sticker. If you are over these weights you will be fined $1 per pound over weight. So you have the correct truck, make sure you have the correct trailer with enough capacity. They don't know what your manual says about your Gross Combined rating, they go by what they see and that's your stickers.

 

I wouldn't bet on that. They certainly don't carry them to check weights on cars. I've never been weighed on a set, but it's common knowledge in the trucking industry to be concerned for DOT officers with portable scales. My axles were rated for 20,000 lbs each, and 80,000 lbs GCWR. If they could weigh that truck I'm sure they could weigh the OP's rig.

 

those pads just get put down and then you roll on them. They can check whatever axles they want.