Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Performance, Engines & Troubleshooting > Modular V10 (6.8l)
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Modular V10 (6.8l) SPONSORED BY:

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-19-2014, 04:08 PM
Im50fast's Avatar
Im50fast Im50fast is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lakeland Florida
Posts: 249
Im50fast is starting off with a positive reputation.
Can I use ethanol free fuel?

I'm due for a fill up right now so within the next few hours I'll be getting 30 gallons of fuel in the van.

I'm wondering if it's good/bad/otherwise to use ethanol free 89 octane from the new Wawa gas station by my house.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-19-2014, 04:11 PM
Clay H's Avatar
Clay H Clay H is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Tuttle, OK
Posts: 622
Clay H has a very good reputation on FTE.Clay H has a very good reputation on FTE.Clay H has a very good reputation on FTE.
I would never recommend using ethanol ever.
__________________
Clay


2003 6.0 dully CC LB
2000 7.3 Excursion Limited
Both running on high cholesterol WVO fuel
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-20-2014, 09:08 PM
Bently_Coop's Avatar
Bently_Coop Bently_Coop is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,243
Bently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud of
Ethanol free gas will last longer and possibly net more mileage. It is also better on the vehicle filters and fuel system. Do it and report back on the mileage difference.
__________________
99 F250 CCSB V10 - 4"MBRP cat back, SPD y pipe, K&N Drop in, zoo dad, Powerslot cryo rotors up front, hawk pads all 4 corners, weathertech visors, husky liners, 2008 Complete back end, Bilstein 5100 up front and pro comps in rear, Bestop EZ roll. More to come....
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-20-2014, 09:08 PM
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky Mark Kovalsky is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 10,877
Mark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputationMark Kovalsky has a superb reputation
Ethanol does nothing to help the engine or the rest of the vehicle. It is there because the government says so. It's not to help you or your engine. If you use fuel without ethanol it will run better.
__________________
Mark
Former Ford Automatic Transmission Engineer

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” ― Neil deGrasse Tyson
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-20-2014, 09:31 PM
Cardinal Puller's Avatar
Cardinal Puller Cardinal Puller is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North Missouri
Posts: 67
Cardinal Puller is starting off with a positive reputation.
I wish I could buy straight gasoline! I think ethanol hurt my mpg quite a bit.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-21-2014, 01:05 AM
Bently_Coop's Avatar
Bently_Coop Bently_Coop is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,243
Bently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud ofBently_Coop has much to be proud of
Carolina- look for truck stop gas stations or search google for local ethanol free places. They are still around but cost a bit more per gallon.
__________________
99 F250 CCSB V10 - 4"MBRP cat back, SPD y pipe, K&N Drop in, zoo dad, Powerslot cryo rotors up front, hawk pads all 4 corners, weathertech visors, husky liners, 2008 Complete back end, Bilstein 5100 up front and pro comps in rear, Bestop EZ roll. More to come....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-21-2014, 07:09 AM
Im50fast's Avatar
Im50fast Im50fast is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lakeland Florida
Posts: 249
Im50fast is starting off with a positive reputation.
I usually get 12 sometimes 13 miles per gallon with my V10 E350. That's based on a normal day of about 120 miles on the highway at 65 mph and about 30 miles in the Orlando area doing 6-8 job stops.

Yesterday after putting $140 worth of 89 octane ethanol free wawa fuel in it, I drove 70 Highway miles and 45 miles of city driving doing over 20 job locations. That 45 miles is a real killer for my experiment.

I will say that I thought the van was a lot smoother and better with the new gas, but also have to keep in mind that the day before I put in the new gas I had also slightly tightened the wheel bearings because there was some play.

Also noteworthy: Greatly reduced part throttle spark knock. Heavy throttle and full throttle spark knock remained the same as before.

I'll probably be filling her up again Thursday. I will report back then with more observations.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-21-2014, 08:26 AM
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS WE3ZS is online now
World Famous
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Media PA
Posts: 1,720
WE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputationWE3ZS has a superb reputation
There's Wawas in Florida now!? I didn't realize that they had spread that far South, I live about 2 miles from the home of the Wawa corp, can remember when they were only very local to here and still had cows at the original plant.
__________________

Tom 2005 Excursion XLT V-10 4X4, '04 SD 18"s, Modded X/B's, 35" Nittos, 4.88s.
'08 Mirrors, Hellwig, Ultra-Gauge, Banks Headers, 5 Star Tunes, GlowShifts, Ranchos.
ASPEN GREEN (Jolly Green Giant) Grey Cloth Interior, WeatherTech Mats.
'89 SeaRay 220CC 325HP Mercruiser Alpha, Full Camper Canvas, 11' Achilles 8HP Merc.
'14 Jayco Eagle Premier 338RETS TT, Hensley Arrow, Prodigy P3, TST 507RV TPMS, 61'.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-21-2014, 08:37 PM
Im50fast's Avatar
Im50fast Im50fast is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lakeland Florida
Posts: 249
Im50fast is starting off with a positive reputation.
Wawa popping up ALL over central florida. Tampa, Orlando, and everywhere in between.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-21-2014, 08:57 PM
asdrew's Avatar
asdrew asdrew is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 65
asdrew is starting off with a positive reputation.
Nice site for ethanol-free stations:

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

If you know of others, I think they have a link for you to add them.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-22-2014, 07:06 PM
Krewat's Avatar
Krewat Krewat is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Long Island USA
Posts: 34,393
Krewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputationKrewat has a superb reputation
Me and some other guy (Fredvon4?) with the same computer calibration both reported absolutely no difference between 10% ethanol and plain gasoline.

On the other hand, when done right, E85 can net MORE power (and worse MPGs): 2011 Ford F-150 5.0-liter V-8 Gains Power Burning E85 Ethanol - PickupTrucks.com News

In the meantime, it just keeps your plumbing cleaner
__________________
- art k. - Moderator for the Superduty, V10, 6.2L and FE forums
'13 Taurus SHO 3.5L Ecoboost w/Perf Pkg
'01 F250SD SC SB XLT V10 4x4 Volant CAI Hedman headers 5-star custom tunes on SCT X3
'97 Cougar XR7 30th Anniv Edition 4.6L
'74 F250 Highboy FE390 deceased!
I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again. Just wait and see. ®
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-22-2014, 08:28 PM
rvpuller's Avatar
rvpuller rvpuller is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Home Base Nebraska
Posts: 2,310
rvpuller has a very good reputation on FTE.rvpuller has a very good reputation on FTE.rvpuller has a very good reputation on FTE.rvpuller has a very good reputation on FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krewat View Post
Me and some other guy (Fredvon4?) with the same computer calibration both reported absolutely no difference between 10% ethanol and plain gasoline.

On the other hand, when done right, E85 can net MORE power (and worse MPGs): 2011 Ford F-150 5.0-liter V-8 Gains Power Burning E85 Ethanol - PickupTrucks.com News

In the meantime, it just keeps your plumbing cleaner
I haven't heard Fredvon4 for a long time. I've also run E10 in both my V10s and my 6.2 and I can tell no difference between regular and E10 empty or pulling. I did try E85 in my 6.2 and under heavy load in the wind pulling our trailer the power decline was very noticeable and the mpg really dropped way off but the truck ran smooth.

Denny
__________________
Moderator 6.2 & V10 Forum
2013 F350 Lariat SC DRW 2WD 6.2 4.30 Gears Air Lifts 50 Aux tank
2003 HH Premier 35 FKTG
Retired 2000 F350 Lariat SC DRW V10 4.30 Gears BrakeSmart
Air Lifts 4X2
http://www.ford-trucks.com/guidelines.html
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-23-2014, 06:29 AM
Im50fast's Avatar
Im50fast Im50fast is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lakeland Florida
Posts: 249
Im50fast is starting off with a positive reputation.
13.4mpg!
Considering the 45 miles where I did over 20 job stops (noted in the post above), this is a remarkable improvement in fuel economy. It certainly would have been over 14mpg, maybe close to 15.

I filled it up with the same fuel this morning, and for the next few business days I'll be doing the same experiment under my usual driving habits.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-23-2014, 07:00 PM
pappy19's Avatar
pappy19 pappy19 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Garden Valley, Idaho
Posts: 1,154
pappy19 has a very good reputation on FTE.pappy19 has a very good reputation on FTE.pappy19 has a very good reputation on FTE.
www.pure-gas.org

A great app on your Android. I use it all the time.
__________________
2008 F-250 V-10 4X4 Lariat, Supercab/Shortbed, Pueblo Gold/Black, Loaded, Custom Front/Rear bumpers from South Texas Outfitters,Duraflaps, Access bed cover, Weatherguard, Air Raid, Mike's 5-Star-SCT(BAD!!), Superhides, TransferFlow 47 gal tank, Rigid LED lights, Mag-Hytec rear dif cover, Bilstein 5100 shocks, Magnaflow,Firestone Airbags,Fumoto Drain Plug.
2007 Lincoln LT-wifers(Mike's 5-Star,Magnaflow,K&N, STO Monster Bumper)
1996 Bronco EB-Almost Stock,STO Monster Bumper
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-23-2014, 11:34 PM
rdinmv rdinmv is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 138
rdinmv is starting off with a positive reputation.
Ahhhhhhhhh I was at Parker Fuels yesterday I had no Idea, now I am back in the Socialist republic of California, any one know why gas is 3.79 out in the middle of the desert with no refineries around and 3.99 right next to one?Fing California! gee gas was 3.50 in Arizona.
Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2014, 11:34 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Performance, Engines & Troubleshooting > Modular V10 (6.8l)

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ran 'er a Little Low today. Walleye Hunter 1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel 17 08-20-2014 06:14 AM
How bad is Ethanol gas for our trucks? 87-XL-Squared 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 13 08-08-2014 08:39 AM
Ethanol RedTaurus94 1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 20 06-10-2014 04:39 PM
Ethanol Free gas and the EcoBoost 2011FX2Crazy 2009+ F150 108 11-28-2012 07:32 PM
something to make you go HMMMMM 88dually New Jersey Chapter 2 10-18-2012 07:31 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup