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Old 05-18-2014, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the info .
Have a link by chance ?
Don't know if it will do any good but I am going to try and contact him .
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Ford Head Flow Data and Specs
I found a flow chart but the C40E castings arent on there . I wanted to see how big a difference it would be. My dilemma is the 289's have just been done and the P's would have to be .
Any body out there have a chart for the 289?
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If I remember, the 64 heart shaped combustion chamber heads were the same as the c5 heads, only the c5 heads had a bigger chamber because it wasn't as closed chamber.
I'll say they only flow 155-165 at max lift like the c5 heads.
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It will be carbed and i will use a c6. I am not new to building engines , restorations , rods or bracket racing . Its what my dad and grandfather did . They had a , back then it was called a service station and a body shop. I have been away for awhile though. I have always been intrigued by Joe Sherman and his engine builds. He reminds me of the old hot rodders i knew growing up. They had a great understanding of things . Knew what they needed or the end result to be , used what they had or could get easily and made it better. They didnt just open a catalog and order bolt on speed . Sherman reminds me of these old guys. Seems today everybody just bolts things on . Here is an example of what i am going to copy .
400 hp 302 Small-Block - Mustang & Fords Magazine
I am honestly building this truck on a bet . I was bet I couldn't build a vehicle that would run on the street and run mid 7's on the track for less than 4k. I also can't buy things from people I know for cheap as a favor .
I also had to buy the vehicle mind you.
I bought the 289 heads for only a hundred . I will have them ported.
I have 3k left to spend .
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Mid 7's and run on the street for less than 4 grand.i hope you didn't bet much.
For starters I wouldn't even think about a 302 I would sneak in a 351w stroked to a 408.that alone with those heads MIGHT get you close.
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Damon I agree . Cubes = horsepower but I had to think about under 4k. There is more available cheaper speed parts available for a 302.
I still think it can be done .
The bet is just a dollar bet . He told me I couldnt do it. I think I can So here we go.
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I see where your coming from,but unless you already have the 347 there's not that much difference between the two kits,plus the 408 will last longer than the 347.
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Mid 7's and run on the street for less than 4 grand.i hope you didn't bet much.
For starters I wouldn't even think about a 302 I would sneak in a 351w stroked to a 408.that alone with those heads MIGHT get you close.
Funny you mentioned the stroked 408. My project car is a Factory Five Cobra and I've got an injected 5.0 in it. My son and I built from the crank up. Kept the bottom end stock, but run a 303 cam,Gt40 heads, explorer intake, 75mm TB and 23Lb injectors. Turns about 375 HP. It gets your attention when to you step into it. However my buddy has that stroked 408 in his. That one will make you wet your pants. If I was doing it again, I would build the 408.
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I agree. Awesome engines.I would like to build a stroked 351 but like I said 302 parts are all over craigslist as well as scat stroker kits . most times for half of what they cost new. I have yet to run across a 351 kit. I might not get to 7.5 but I will give it my best shot and I am having fun trading parts .
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I agree. Awesome engines.I would like to build a stroked 351 but like I said 302 parts are all over craigslist as well as scat stroker kits . most times for half of what they cost new. I have yet to run across a 351 kit. I might not get to 7.5 but I will give it my best shot and I am having fun trading parts .
Speaking as someone who's been doing this for a while. Be very careful where you source your parts. Sometimes cheap is just that.... cheap. I've seen engines that were weeks being built and spending thousands of dollars. Only to see all that lost from some junk eBay part.
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have you considered some canted valve heads? might be some added cost, but might help achieve the drag goal. Ausie 302c or 2v american cast iron.

it sounds as if you have some machinery available. Im not sure if you can fly cut 302 pistons or not, but boss pistons do get expensive.

how gt40's compare to old cleveland iron, I do not know.
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Between spending money on a boss intake, or the old b&a intake (edelbrock was the last to make an intake for Cleveland heads on a Windsor, but not sure if they actually have them in stock, summit has a listing for them last I looked) and the correct pistons for the combustion chamber (another boss issue was when non shaped pistons were used, the combustion wasn't ideal, and less power made)
Then you need to block off bottom water port ideally, and then add a water port to the intake side of the head.

Personally, I'd go for a set of alum heads over the Cleveland head. More intake options and stuff. Unless you don't redo the valves in the c heads, and you do the work yourself for water port, you'll have enough money tied up in the c heads to of bought alum heads.

Good idea, but not many people can pull it off without spending a ton of money.
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If i have any thing left I will go aluminum . I have a 302 Vic Jr intake and an performer rpm . I picked up a just built 30 over 302 12:1 comp. with scat polished crank ,KB pistons ,eagle rods and ported / polished steel heads roller rockers lunati cam and push rods for $700 . I will post pics later . it isn't the 347 I was wanting to build but it will get me going . I had a deal working for a a 347 balanced rotating Assembly in the box for 800 when I found this engine .
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