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Yep, contacting pavement, or dirt, or whatever you drive on. Everything you do to any part of you truck that 'improves' the starting/stopping/steering goes through the tires. You know the whole "Rubber meets the road" thing.
Dunno if I would feel comfortable riding around in a SuperDuty knowing I've reduced it's capabilities.
still don't get that part
 
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still don't get that part
Really? Your joking, right?
 
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Really? Your joking, right?
nope, explain it.
 
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What happened to my 3 videos I went to the trouble of putting in? I'm getting tired of putting things in here and having them dis-appear.
 
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nope, explain it.
Your tires are those round things that your trucks entire mass and force rides on. They are the only part of the truck that are supposed to touch the road. They support the weight of your truck. They give you traction. They are the final input to your steering commands. Your tires quality and suitability, or lack of it, is the final thing determining the performance if your truck. They're not there for looks.
All your HP, helper springs, stabilizers, performance brakes, etc mean nothing if you cannot get that performance to the ground.

Geeze, am I really answering this???
 
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What happened to my 3 videos I went to the trouble of putting in? I'm getting tired of putting things in here and having them dis-appear.
They were on here earlier this morning.
 
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Originally Posted by Bazillions;14374859[B
]Your tires are those round things that your trucks entire mass and force rides on.[/B] They are the only part of the truck that are supposed to touch the road. They support the weight of your truck. They give you traction. They are the final input to your steering commands. Your tires quality and suitability, or lack of it, is the final thing determining the performance if your truck. They're not there for looks.
All your HP, helper springs, stabilizers, performance brakes, etc mean nothing if you cannot get that performance to the ground.

Geeze, am I really answering this???
I helped you out and then you turn into a wise guy, thanks bazillions.
 
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I helped you out and then you turn into a wise guy, thanks bazillions.
Sorry I came across like that, it was rude, I apologize. I just get frustrated too easy when I think something is simple. I forget I've been driving professionally for over thirty years and have seen the results of people taking tires for granted. Reading what they want to hear instead of what is really being said. It has jaded my responses and I need to work on that. Thanks for calling me out on it.

Tires are your final 'life line' on the road. Poor choices affect us all.
 
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Originally Posted by Bazillions
I forget I've been driving professionally for over thirty years and have seen the results of people taking tires for granted.
So just for yucks, go out to your truck and look at your steer tires and their maximum weight rating. Multiply that times two then look at the placard inside the door and look at what the max GAWR for your steer axle is. Tell us how close the two numbers are.
 
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So just for yucks, go out to your truck and look at your steer tires and their maximum weight rating. Multiply that times two then look at the placard inside the door and look at what the max GAWR for your steer axle is. Tell us how close the two numbers are.
I'll have to wait till I'm off vacation and back home, but I'm sure someone here could do that. Curious how that relates to sidewall stiffness under a load where you would need that for handling and stability. Are the load ranges a hoax?
 
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I'll have to wait till I'm off vacation and back home, but I'm sure someone here could do that. Curious how that relates to sidewall stiffness under a load where you would need that for handling and stability. Are the load ranges a hoax?
Of course they're not a hoax; they're a classification. Just like your work truck is probably a Class 8. Of course all that means to your work truck is that it's got a GCWR of over 33,000 lbs.

The best way to explain it is with the chart I posted earlier in this thread. Consider the below excerpt. An LT255/70R16 tire that's rated for 50 PSI is considered Load Range C, and can support a maximum of 2,205 lbs. A bigger LT305/70R16 tire rated for the exact same pressure of 50 PSI is considered Load Range D, and can safely support 2,910 lbs. If that same tire was rated for 80 PSI it would be Load Range F and be capable of 3,970 lbs.

You take that Load Range F tire and air it down to 50 PSI and it has the exact same capacity as the same size Load Range D tire does. The bigger you go the less pressure it takes to hold an equivalent amount of weight, and the load range sometimes becomes lesser for the same weight. What matters is that the tire can safely support the weight.

The same way a tandem axle straight truck can't be considered to be the same as a tridem axle heavy haul rig. Both are Class 8, but with widely differing capabilities.
 
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Running a larger tire say 40" and having a blow out at any speed your likely to roll the truck just for the simple fact that you imediately drop 10". It would be the equivelent of hitting a large bar ditch and losing road stability afterwards. I personally wouldnt want to attempt it with my 35" tires
 
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We're talking about Toyo's here that have 3ply sidewalls no matter if there rated CDE and these c-rated tires have the same amount of plys as my E rated tires. Says so right on sidewall. Only thing I can see is different is rubber seems softer.
 
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What happened to my videos that were in line with this thread that I spent time to view and post in here?
 
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What happened to my videos that were in line with this thread that I spent time to view and post in here?
No idea, they must have removed them.
 


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