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Old 04-30-2014, 05:55 PM
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My Experience With an H-Pipe

After running a true dual exhaust system (a separate exhaust pipe running from each header) since about 2009, a friend in the exhaust business convinced me to install a crossover pipe, or "H-pipe" between the two exhaust pipes. It was explained to me that the H-pipe would help with low end torque (and an X-pipe would help with top end horsepower). So I went ahead and did it, not expecting much difference.

Let me just say that the H-pipe made a VERY noticeable difference in my truck! Driving away, I felt the difference immediately. Although throttle response was always excellent with this truck, the H-pipe greatly improved low end power; I can actually feel the difference in the throttle. The engine seems to "breathe" better, as in I can accelerate MUCH easier and faster with less throttle pressure than before. The improvement feels like I fixed a sticking brake, or like I shed 500 pounds off the truck!

An added bonus came after I got home and got out to inspect the H-pipe location with the truck at idle: the exhaust note is now much deeper, much STRONGER. It now sounds like...a 5.0 Mustang!

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Got any pictures? Maybe a video? Glad it works well for you.
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Interesting. Thanks for posting this. Both of my exhaust pipes run down the passenger side, very close to each other. I wonder if there would be any advantage to using the "H" with the pipes in this configurations?
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I wonder if my Magnaflow two-in, two-out muffler has that built-in or not.
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Ford's do well with an h or crossover pipe, something about the firing order IIRC. The scavenging needs to be done closer to the front, more around the bellhousing. An old trick was to paint an area a couple feet long closer to the engine on each pipe, where the paint burned off was the hot spot and the pipe would go between there.
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I wonder if my Magnaflow two-in, two-out muffler has that built-in or not.
If it's the same one I bought, it has a built in X pipe.
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Got any pictures? Maybe a video? Glad it works well for you.
Sorry, I don't.

I really wasn't expecting any sort of gain, and I decided to do it on a whim. Otherwise, I would have.

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Interesting. Thanks for posting this. Both of my exhaust pipes run down the passenger side, very close to each other. I wonder if there would be any advantage to using the "H" with the pipes in this configurations?
My exhaust pipes route the same way. The H-pipe was welded in between the transmission and the [Flowmaster] mufflers, on the passenger's side right past the door. I am running dual exhaust with a separate muffler on each pipe.

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If it's the same one I bought, it has a built in X pipe.
It was explained to me that the H-pipe helps with low-end torque and produces a deeper, classic muscle car sound. The X-pipe helps more on top end horsepower and produces a raspier, modern exotic car sound.

Which sound do YOU like best?
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I want to do this on dad's truck. I suspect that 390 will respond quite well.....
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I've got a Y pipe in my 2 in 1 out muffler. MASSIVE increase in power and torque over true dual glasspack home made system.


2.5" dual in to muffler 3" single outlet with hooker long tube headers.
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I'll be running Flowtech longtube headers to a side by side dual to a dual in/dual out MagnaFlow 22" muffler with a built in cross over. I'm going to exit the same spot as the FE truck, passenger side behind the cab. No cats. I don't think an H pipe will help me as much, simply because there is not a lot of room for it. I'm going to have to have my DS tube cross under the tailshaft of the transmission to dump where I want it. When I get the motor going I am going to take it in for a quote and ideas on where to run everything.
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This guy put an H-pipe on his F250, and it sounds like a Mustang!

Pretty slick!
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I've got a Y pipe in my 2 in 1 out muffler. MASSIVE increase in power and torque over true dual glasspack home made system.

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2.5" dual in to muffler 3" single outlet with hooker long tube headers.
That sounds pretty close to my truck, but cleaner and a bit deeper.

I'm running stock manifolds and y-pipe to a Magnaflow muffler with a turnout in front of the rear wheel. It was a hack hob for the mounting and turnout.

Was thinking of scraping the whole system for headers and duals. Now considering some headers and new y-pipe. Or maybe X-pipe into current muffler. It's a pretty big can and might work.
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That sounds pretty close to my truck, but cleaner and a bit deeper.

I'm running stock manifolds and y-pipe to a Magnaflow muffler with a turnout in front of the rear wheel. It was a hack hob for the mounting and turnout.

Was thinking of scraping the whole system for headers and duals. Now considering some headers and new y-pipe. Or maybe X-pipe into current muffler. It's a pretty big can and might work.
I'm glad I just spent the money on the exhaust system, lifetime warranty and it was done nicely. It sounds slightly different now at idle. I have it running on manifold vacuum now instead of ported, it sounds faster and even cleaner now.
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I never realized the difference in exhaust note, H pipe compared to X pipe.

For the guys that do have X or H pipes on their trucks, does anyone have any pics of underneath. Just curious to see where you placed them.
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