Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Performance, Engines & Troubleshooting > Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460)
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 04-18-2014, 02:50 PM
ryceman168 ryceman168 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
ryceman168 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Engine identification?

I am wondering what engines I have recently acquired. They were in the back of an old shed for years. The tag on one says: 429 69 4
9-D K815-U.
and the other says: 429 70 6
9-K K815-A.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-21-2014, 01:10 PM
-mywheels- -mywheels- is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 165
-mywheels- is starting off with a positive reputation.
Are there any numbers by the starter? If so, post those.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-25-2014, 10:55 PM
ryceman168 ryceman168 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
ryceman168 is starting off with a positive reputation.
There are numbers on the back of the block that read: 9Z604674.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-26-2014, 12:37 AM
-mywheels- -mywheels- is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 165
-mywheels- is starting off with a positive reputation.
Numbers on the side by the starter are the ones I'm talking about.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-26-2014, 04:37 AM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy NumberDummy is online now
Ford Parts Specialist
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hacienda Heights CA
Posts: 54,703
NumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryceman168 View Post
I am wondering what engines I have recently acquired. They were in the back of an old shed for years.

The tag on one says: 429 69 4 9-D K 815 U / and the other says: 429 70 6 9- KK 815 A.
Engine ID tags: K 815 U & KK 815 A = 1973 429 4V
__________________
Bill / Retired Ford Parts Manager / Part number research: 1928/2001 trucks & 1928/89 passenger cars.

2013 Escape FWD 2.0L Eco-Boost
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-17-2014, 11:44 AM
ryceman168 ryceman168 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
ryceman168 is starting off with a positive reputation.
The numbers by the starter are C9VE-B.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-17-2014, 02:01 PM
85e150six4mtod 85e150six4mtod is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,033
85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation
C -1960s
9 - 1969
V - Lincoln
E - Engine.

A 1969 Lincoln casting revision, with the B maybe being another revision. No surprise in a 1973 motor.

Deck height would be a question, as it appears there were several revisions, this possibly being the last for C9.. blocks. See the notes on deck height etc here:

Kelly hotrod - Ford Engines Page 2

Probably just a run of the mill pillow barge smog motor. Perfect for a minor rebuild into a 700 horse mountain motor. Get to work!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-17-2014, 03:18 PM
monsterbaby's Avatar
monsterbaby monsterbaby is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: iowa
Posts: 18,078
monsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputationmonsterbaby has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod View Post
C -1960s
9 - 1969
V - Lincoln
E - Engine.

A 1969 Lincoln casting revision, with the B maybe being another revision. No surprise in a 1973 motor.

Deck height would be a question, as it appears there were several revisions, this possibly being the last for C9.. blocks. See the notes on deck height etc here:

Kelly hotrod - Ford Engines Page 2

Probably just a run of the mill pillow barge smog motor. Perfect for a minor rebuild into a 700 horse mountain motor. Get to work!
Actually some numbers aren't adding up. A C9VE block would be a huge surprise on a 73 motor. It should have a D1VE block.

And you can't use casting revision numbers to determine where it came from. Just because it has the V for Lincoln does NOT mean it was ever in a Lincoln but rather that the ORIGINAL use of that engine group was for a Lincoln

BUT the ACTUAL decoding on that engine tag indicates it's a 69 429-4V.
__________________
Rob

RIP Steve Bricks. FTE will not be teh same.

Will be forever glad to have had the privilage to shake your hand and BS in person.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-17-2014, 05:21 PM
85e150six4mtod 85e150six4mtod is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,033
85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation
From the above tag decode:

Engine ID tags: K 815 U & KK 815 A = 1973 429 4V


OP needs to tear them down and inspect if he's going to use them anyway. He'll figure it out.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-17-2014, 11:38 PM
ryceman168 ryceman168 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
ryceman168 is starting off with a positive reputation.
The motor I am referring to is a 1969 Ford 429. Not a 1973. At least that's what the tag attached to it says. I was told it could have been out of a T Bird but that may not be true.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-18-2014, 12:49 AM
85e150six4mtod 85e150six4mtod is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,033
85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation
[QUOTE=ryceman168;14273744]

429. 69 4
9-D K815-U.

429 70 6
9-K K815-A
"

OK, if I read this correctly, you have a '69 made in April of '69 and a '70 made in October of '69.

I.D. Tag Information -- The Ford V-8 Engine Workshop

AFAIK those would have been 11:1 compression engines, T bird, Galaxie or Mercury land yachts.
Does it have a 4bbl intake and the words "Thunder Jet" on it anywhere?

The Lincoln connection would be that the 429 and 460 blocks are the same, with Lincoln using the 460 at that time.

As I said earlier, since they have been sitting and since you don't know the condition, a tear down would be a good idea. Also, they probably do not have hardened valve seats unless someone did that later, and with 11:1 compression, they will be hard to please gas wise.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-18-2014, 09:45 PM
ryceman168 ryceman168 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 8
ryceman168 is starting off with a positive reputation.
It has a 2 barrel manifold on it. No thunderjet anywhere.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-18-2014, 11:41 PM
85e150six4mtod 85e150six4mtod is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,033
85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation
There were Mercury 2bbl 429s, not sure if they found their way into Fords. The Marquis had one as the standard engine. Supposedly the same specs and a "Premium Fuel" engine with the same compression as the 4bbl.

The insurance man would relax if you had a 2bbl, but panic with a 4bbl.

Also, I see 11.3:1 compression referenced for the "Thunder Jet" motor, a figure I recall hearing years ago when these motors were new.

Serving suggestion for that concours restoration you might consider:

1969 Mercury Marauder Monterey Marquis 429 2V Air Cleaner Top Lid Decal Sticker | eBay
Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 11:41 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Performance, Engines & Troubleshooting > Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460)

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hollister Hills OHV Chrisrehpot California, Northern Chapter 14 08-10-2014 10:40 PM
2004 6.0 cuts off unhook battery cranks back? Rad4633 Super Duty & Heavy Duty 0 04-09-2014 05:22 PM
429 Engine Source? berry1234 Large Truck 2 09-24-2013 10:13 AM
1988-1994 7.3 Liter IDI Non-Turbo Diesel Engine towmaster Ford Truck Parts for Sale 0 01-29-2013 02:15 PM
429 F250 1967m250 Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460) 1 12-14-2012 05:31 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup