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Old 04-07-2014, 05:49 PM
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International doesn't agree with Ford diagnostic, need opinions!

So a quick recap:

All winter I've been having cold start issues. I've changed everything you can imagine (Check past threads listed below for details) but nothing helped (not even Rev-X). So I finally took it to the Dealership. They call me back a couple hours ago and said that all 8 injectors were bad and were dropping off, my fuel pressure was reading at 36psi, my water in fuel light was illuminated (Never has before!), and they had to do a manual compression test to see if compression was good. All totaled to $4,361.46. Injectors, I can do myself at a cost of $261.64 each from Ford. So I called International to see if they had them cheaper and when I told them what Ford said, the tech said he had never seen all 8 injectors go bad and that I should not let them change them until other things were ruled out (e.i. Fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, and something else (I can't remember the name). He also said that they can't work on Fords. I ok'd the dealership to do the compression test on the engine and nothing else. Anyone have any feedback on what I should do? I've called and left a message with the guys at powerstrokehelp in Georgia. I live in Huntsville, Al, does anyone know a trustworthy 6.0 mech here that can diagnose this? I just don't know what to do!


Here are the other threads I've created on the subject:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...ease-help.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/13...ter-rev-x.html
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I can tell you that 36 psi fuel pressure is absolutely no good for your injectors.
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Get the truck home, add the blue spring regulator and recheck fuel pressure.

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I can tell you that 36 psi fuel pressure is absolutely no good for your injectors.
Could it just be the fuel pump or fuel pressure regulator?
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Get the truck home, add the blue spring regulator and recheck fuel pressure.

Josh
I am, after doing some reading and what the tech at International said I'm not letting the dealership do a compression test. I've done the bubble test and heard it crank without starting and my compression sounds fine so I'll save my 500 dollars on that. The Tech at international said he would take a look for me but he can't use the diagnostic equipment that International uses because Ford's computer reads differently.
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I would certainly do as others mentioned and get FUEL Pressure up See how it runs then

If you had low fuel press for a long time then you might need 8 inject But Bring the System to PAR before making any Decision on inject


I would Almost test the Fuel Pressure myself at this Point
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I would certainly do as others mentioned and get FUEL Pressure up See how it runs then

If you had low fuel press for a long time then you might need 8 inject But Bring the System to PAR before making any Decision on inject


I would Almost test the Fuel Pressure myself at this Point
Is there a tool I can get to do that or a parts list to make one?
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You can go with a Standalone gauge or Manual gauge

Manual gauge needs a Kit for WOT compensator

Sean would be the Go to guy on the Tool
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BLUE FUEL PRESSURE SPRING INSTALL

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please do not bring it to that powerstroke help idiot
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theres my pic in that thread Lower left side it the Spot to screw in the FP Tester or Sender

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=75606
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please do not bring it to that powerstroke help idiot
Just curious, but why, he seems to know a lot. But looks can be deceiving I guess.
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theres my pic in that thread Lower left side it the Spot to screw in the FP Tester or Sender

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=75606
Thank you, I'm looking them up now.
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Is there a tool I can get to do that or a parts list to make one?
There is a fairly good tester at Harbor Freight that will work for a basic test in a pinch and includes the correct adaptor fitting for the regulator housing.

Called an oil pressure tester kit, works just fine for diesel fuel...

Engine Oil Pressure Test Kit

Specs call for 40+ psi at all times, better to see 45+ psi even during WOT.

Blue Spring kit should push PSI well over 55+

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