1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

good crate engine?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-03-2014, 10:57 PM
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Red454sedgwick is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
good crate engine?

anybody know of a place to get a good crate engine. I got and 02 cc, thats got a rod knock
Or I rebuild it myself any tips on that.
Also is there a good source for rebuild injectors?
 

Last edited by Stewart_H; 04-04-2014 at 01:19 PM.
  #2  
Old 04-04-2014, 01:28 AM
BigAlsPSD's Avatar
BigAlsPSD
BigAlsPSD is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Pea Ridge, AR
Posts: 5,470
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have not heard that much about new long blocks, Clay at Riffraffdiesel.com used to sell them, but they are not listed that I can find any longer.

I would first ask if you are sure it's a rod knocking? These motors are pretty stout. The injectors can certainly hammer away if they are failing or even if fuel pressure is not being maintained.

Every time I have been in need I have just found some on craigslist or in the classifieds on these forums and others.

If you wanted to take it to a shop and have it rebuilt Clay does sell the overhaul kit.

Ford - 99-03 Super Duty 7.3L - Powertrain - Engine Rebuild Kits - Riffraff Diesel Performance

And as for the injectors, here's Clay again selling Full force injectors Ford - 99-03 Super Duty 7.3L - Fuel System & Related - Full Force Diesel Injectors - Riffraff Diesel Performance
 
  #3  
Old 04-04-2014, 03:13 AM
Tugly's Avatar
Tugly
Tugly is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Columbia River
Posts: 18,797
Received 111 Likes on 66 Posts
Originally Posted by Red454sedgwick
anybody know of a place to get a good create engine. I got and 02 cc, thats got a rod knock
Or I rebuild it myself any tips on that.
Also is there a good source for rebuild injectors?
While I'm of no help with a crate engine, I'd like to hear that alleged "rod knock". I don't know how much experience you have with the 7.3L, so I just share this in the event it proves helpful. These two videos are not rod knock, they are injector problems.

Bad injector:


Loose injector:


Same engine, different sticks:

 
  #4  
Old 04-04-2014, 06:55 AM
HKusp's Avatar
HKusp
HKusp is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Perry Hall, Maryland.
Posts: 7,760
Received 26 Likes on 20 Posts
My first thought was "Good Lord, what is a create engain, and why would you want to create one?"

But I got it now.
 
  #5  
Old 04-04-2014, 07:06 AM
Dan V's Avatar
Dan V
Dan V is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: north of Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 5,230
Received 575 Likes on 372 Posts
I'll second Rich's thought on the video.

Crate engine? Some builders, I think the Ford reman unit doesn't have a good reputation. I've rebuilt one, sent the machine work out.....it's expensive, heavy and you are gonna learn about things like injector cups.
 
  #6  
Old 04-04-2014, 10:23 AM
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Red454sedgwick is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's going to get all new cups, I've rebuilt a couple of 7.3 idi. This is a for hire job.
He had a bad injector that he run too long, I changed the injector and the smoke went away.
After that I drove it some to see if it would go away, it got worse and there are shavings in the oil.
I was always much better with wrenches than with sppeling.
 
  #7  
Old 04-04-2014, 10:52 AM
HKusp's Avatar
HKusp
HKusp is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Perry Hall, Maryland.
Posts: 7,760
Received 26 Likes on 20 Posts
Originally Posted by Red454sedgwick
It's going to get all new cups, I've rebuilt a couple of 7.3 idi. This is a for hire job.
He had a bad injector that he run too long, I changed the injector and the smoke went away.
After that I drove it some to see if it would go away, it got worse and there are shavings in the oil.
I was always much better with wrenches than with sppeling.
No sweat, it was early and my mind wasn't as sharp as it can be which, isn't very, and I was confused, then I amused myself. No worries.
 
  #8  
Old 04-04-2014, 11:32 AM
timmyboy76's Avatar
timmyboy76
timmyboy76 is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,793
Received 48 Likes on 36 Posts
  #9  
Old 04-04-2014, 01:20 PM
Stewart_H's Avatar
Stewart_H
Stewart_H is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Coast of CA
Posts: 29,376
Received 86 Likes on 79 Posts
Originally Posted by Red454sedgwick
I was always much better with wrenches than with spelling.
No worries brother, I got your back.

Stewart
 
  #10  
Old 04-04-2014, 10:14 PM
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Red454sedgwick is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't want to put an older engine in it, there a little different I was talking to him today I'm going to pull his engine and see what it needs,
I have a good 96 block and a wreaked 97, but this tread changed my mind on putting the 97 in it.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...and-crank.html
 
  #11  
Old 04-05-2014, 05:49 AM
Kamstutz's Avatar
Kamstutz
Kamstutz is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Huntington WV
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Look for a IHC school bus engine for a short block to rebuild. There are a ton of them out there and cheaper that a Ford 7.3. Just make sure you get the improved 7.3 block with the upper added webs, 97+ IIRC. The final machining for the Ford 7.3 is the only difference, no # cyl is machined a little bigger for the heat. The only other difference is IHC uses a mechanical fuel pump on top of the engine and Ford uses a electronic pump. The Ford block uses a welsh plug to fill in the mechanical fuel pump hole.
 
  #12  
Old 05-16-2014, 10:21 PM
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Red454sedgwick is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Found out what the know was it broke a skirt off a piston.
 
  #13  
Old 05-16-2014, 11:30 PM
aawlberninf350's Avatar
aawlberninf350
aawlberninf350 is offline
It's a Van Gogh
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 6,799
Received 781 Likes on 571 Posts
Thanks for the update. How's the bore look?
 
  #14  
Old 05-16-2014, 11:45 PM
Tim Hodgson's Avatar
Tim Hodgson
Tim Hodgson is offline
Fleet Mechanic

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sacramento Delta, CA
Posts: 1,853
Received 46 Likes on 33 Posts
Here you go:

Power Stroke Diesel - Power and Pride

You could have a windowed block and Ford takes the core without deduction.

The remanufacture video is pretty cool. They don't re-sleeve. They robot spin weld and bore.
Hmmm... then what about cavitation on the other side of the existing sleeves? They say they xray or some such thing so would that catch any cavitation divits on the other side of the sleeves? Or do they bore so deep and then build up so much weld material ao that it doesn't matter? Inquiring minds want to know...

And not only is the warranty 2 years, it is unlimited mileage which covers commercial vehicles as well as personal vehicles. And supposedly the warranty is nationwide.
 
  #15  
Old 05-17-2014, 02:13 PM
Red454sedgwick's Avatar
Red454sedgwick
Red454sedgwick is offline
Posting Guru
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I haven't tore it apart just pulled the pan off, I'll get some pics when I tare it down,
As for a ford rebuild last time I asked it was 10,000 bucks for one and you had to pay ford to install it for warranty, I could rebuild it my self a couple times for that,
That spin weld sounds like a neat process
If I'm going to look in to a short block for know any ideas?
 


Quick Reply: good crate engine?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:20 PM.