62 Falcon club wagon. No spark!!

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Old 04-03-2014, 11:30 AM
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62 Falcon club wagon. No spark!!

Bought a 1962 Falcon club wagon van. Just fell in love with it. Needs some TLC tho.
Engine turns over. It has the 144 straight 6 in it. But I'm not getting and spark. Put new coil in. New rotor and distribitor cap. I noticed there some gouge marks where the rotor has Been hitting. Never really worked on distribitors before. Should I get new plugs and plug wires? Or I may not be doing something right idk.
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How do the plugs look now.. How are you checking for spark? When did it last run, etc.

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tough call.
but start with the basics.
are you getting power to the coil?
if yes, then check the points. if the points are good, try changing the condenser.
that should get you going.
if no power to the coil, back track to the ignition switch. if you have power out of the switch but not at the coil the resister wire is bad.
if no power out of the switch,
look for power into the switch.
 
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How do the plugs look now.. How are you checking for spark? When did it last run, etc.

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It last ran in 2011. Plugs were black but I cleaned the up. I checked be taking the number one plug out connect the plug wire to it. Hold it somewhere against the engine and crank it
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
tough call.
but start with the basics.
are you getting power to the coil?
if yes, then check the points. if the points are good, try changing the condenser.
that should get you going.
if no power to the coil, back track to the ignition switch. if you have power out of the switch but not at the coil the resister wire is bad.
if no power out of the switch,
look for power into the switch.
Thanks!
The points looked a little dirty. Stuck some sandpaper between them and pulled it out couple times. Maybe it cleaned them. Not sure how to tell if there bad or not
 
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disconnect the wire from points to the coil. then remove the condenser wire from the points. take a multi meter and set it to ohms.
put one lead to the wire that hooks to the coil. the other lead to ground. turn the engine over. when the points close, the meter should show zero ohms. when the points open there should be no reading at all.

or just change the points and condenser anyway. they are pretty cheap, i bet you could get both for under $15.
 
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Thanks! The points looked a little dirty. Stuck some sandpaper between them and pulled it out couple times. Maybe it cleaned them. Not sure how to tell if there bad or not
Pretty much gray is the only color you want to see. Would suggest a new/known good condensor before anything else. Make sure any ground wire in the distributor is cleaned up and tight. Try and see if you get a spark from the coil wire to ground, too.

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Originally Posted by tjc transport
disconnect the wire from points to the coil. then remove the condenser wire from the points. take a multi meter and set it to ohms.
put one lead to the wire that hooks to the coil. the other lead to ground. turn the engine over. when the points close, the meter should show zero ohms. when the points open there should be no reading at all.

or just change the points and condenser anyway. they are pretty cheap, i bet you could get both for under $15.
ok! good news is i have spark,Bad news wont fire up ha.
Started with just cleaning everything up, Gound and all the connections. That did the trick. (Somthing i should of done in the first place, Sorry to waste your time ha) But i checked the 1st and 2nd plug, they look wet so fuel is getting to them. i assume its a timming issue now right?
 
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not really. does the gas smell like gas or varnish. the new ethanol based fuel are pure crap, and will turn to varnish in a little as 3 months in some places.

it also does really nasty things to carburetors.
it may be a sticking float that is flooding the engine.
 
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Well - let's back up a sec - you say you are getting a spark, is it a good bluish spark? Should hear a nice snap, too. It's possible to have spark voltage, but is too weak to jump the gap of the plugs when under compression, and stale fuel wouldn't help either.

New plugs aren't a bad idea in any case, probably won't be a show stopper at this point. You can clean them up, sure, and dress the electrodes a bit so they have sharp flat surfaces. Rotor should not be gouging anything under the distributor cap. May not have been the right one?


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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Well - let's back up a sec - you say you are getting a spark, is it a good bluish spark? Should hear a nice snap, too. It's possible to have spark voltage, but is too weak to jump the gap of the plugs when under compression, and stale fuel wouldn't help either.

New plugs aren't a bad idea in any case, probably won't be a show stopper at this point. You can clean them up, sure, and dress the electrodes a bit so they have sharp flat surfaces. Rotor should not be gouging anything under the distributor cap. May not have been the right one?


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I just picked up new plugs this morning. Haven't got a chance to put them in yet. There was no fuel in the tank when I got it. So fuel is fresh. And the day I got it home(3 weeks ago) I took about the carb cleaned it all out.
 
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About where #6is on the cap.. there is a notch. Make sureit lines up
With the notch in the distributor..or the bug will groove the inside of cap.its easy to do..
 
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