Mileage, idi, PS, 5.8 gasser OBS truck
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Mileage, idi, PS, 5.8 gasser OBS truck
Alright guys, so im on the hunt for an OBS single cab long bed F350 4x4.
Im partial to the idi because I have one, and I think a 93 turbo single cab would actually ahve some decent power (compared to my N/A crewcab).
But there is only 1 or two years that they came turbo, unless someone slapped a turbo on a 92. Pretty narrow range I got to find me a SCLB F350 OBS(which seems rare enough).
Been thinking what if I expand my search past the IDI and even past the diesel to a 5.8. Ideally I want a cummins with an NV4500. Can get a P pumped 12v for ~1500, then another 1k for trans and Tcase I assume.
How bad is the 5.8 on fuel? how bad is the PS vs IDI fuel econ? Cost to service the PS vs IDI? Diesel fuel is about 60 cents more expensive than regular gas now too.
I assume a gasser truck will be cheaper to purchase too?
Let me know your thoughts guys.
Im partial to the idi because I have one, and I think a 93 turbo single cab would actually ahve some decent power (compared to my N/A crewcab).
But there is only 1 or two years that they came turbo, unless someone slapped a turbo on a 92. Pretty narrow range I got to find me a SCLB F350 OBS(which seems rare enough).
Been thinking what if I expand my search past the IDI and even past the diesel to a 5.8. Ideally I want a cummins with an NV4500. Can get a P pumped 12v for ~1500, then another 1k for trans and Tcase I assume.
How bad is the 5.8 on fuel? how bad is the PS vs IDI fuel econ? Cost to service the PS vs IDI? Diesel fuel is about 60 cents more expensive than regular gas now too.
I assume a gasser truck will be cheaper to purchase too?
Let me know your thoughts guys.
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i should mention that if i gt a gasser its getting a cummins swap asap.
Once i buy a place this year (hopefully) i will have the space to 'fuge WMO which is always a reason i wanted a diesel.
Just wondering if its easier to find/cheaper a 5.8 gasser F350 RCLB 4x4 OBS?
Really dont want the 7.4 gasser..thing will eat me alive driving it abck from FL or texas or GA whever i get it from.
Once i buy a place this year (hopefully) i will have the space to 'fuge WMO which is always a reason i wanted a diesel.
Just wondering if its easier to find/cheaper a 5.8 gasser F350 RCLB 4x4 OBS?
Really dont want the 7.4 gasser..thing will eat me alive driving it abck from FL or texas or GA whever i get it from.
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over on OB a member was saying the 5.8 F350 will have a smaller core support, and have lighter springs, and smaller MC?
like I said, id like the 5.8 if it comes down to it, vs the 7.4, because I will lose my shirt in fuel on the 7.4 in the time it takes me to get the Cummins stuff going.
Also I need to account for getting diesel tanks and pickup tubed for a diesel if i buy a gasser.
like I said, id like the 5.8 if it comes down to it, vs the 7.4, because I will lose my shirt in fuel on the 7.4 in the time it takes me to get the Cummins stuff going.
Also I need to account for getting diesel tanks and pickup tubed for a diesel if i buy a gasser.
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460 (7.5) doesnt get THAT bad if driven decent in a smaller truck, i would expect 12-14, 5.8 will only get 13-15 IDI / PSD should do 18-20, obviously the IDI is cheaper to buy operate and maintain. Our 94 460 gets 11 and thats a CCLB 4x4 w/ 4.11s, i might also add thats with an empty fire tank and 412k on the ticker. The 5.8 might have smaller stuff, but i doubt it, in a 250 yes, but in a 350 im not so sure, either way they will swap right across as its a 350 frame regardless. The odds of finding a 5.8 F350 are pretty slim anyway i would think.
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So you're set you want a cummins over an IDI no matter what?
You were all about finding the allusive IDIT/ZF5? If that' what you still want and just can't find one that isn't too expensive why not just buy the best you can get and mod it. Can't find a stock turbo one, buy one with an aftermarket turbo, can't afford that add a turbo yourself. Can't find an OBS get a bricknose and swap front clips, etc.
You were all about finding the allusive IDIT/ZF5? If that' what you still want and just can't find one that isn't too expensive why not just buy the best you can get and mod it. Can't find a stock turbo one, buy one with an aftermarket turbo, can't afford that add a turbo yourself. Can't find an OBS get a bricknose and swap front clips, etc.
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think i got what i wanted. 96 f350 4x4 RCLB in white (my color!), very minimal rust on body (bottom door seams on the actual door), rear and front fenders mint, floor good. from PA. picking it up next weekend. 5.8 Auto.
engine has a fresh tuneup, says the trans wont upshift sometimes unless u let off gas but will upshift with the manual lever. Claims it doesn't slip. Imagine its the TPS sensor (when mine was out of adjustment on the diesel it would do this)
Alcoa wheels, good tires, clearance lights.
2k. Dude has some fines or something and no license.
Send me a vid of it driving so looks decent enough
engine has a fresh tuneup, says the trans wont upshift sometimes unless u let off gas but will upshift with the manual lever. Claims it doesn't slip. Imagine its the TPS sensor (when mine was out of adjustment on the diesel it would do this)
Alcoa wheels, good tires, clearance lights.
2k. Dude has some fines or something and no license.
Send me a vid of it driving so looks decent enough
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The 351w has 40 more hp than an idi. Gas is cheaper. It's a good 80 cents less a gallon than diesel at the moment here at least. Core support is different than the diesel one. But, if you stick to 92+ getting a diesel core support while be super easy if you want to change over.
No obd2 on the 250's and up even if newer than 1996. OBD2 wasn't required on that weight vehicles at the time. Only in 2010 have heavy duty vehicles needed OBD2.
No obd2 on the 250's and up even if newer than 1996. OBD2 wasn't required on that weight vehicles at the time. Only in 2010 have heavy duty vehicles needed OBD2.
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The 351w has 40 more hp than an idi. Gas is cheaper. It's a good 80 cents less a gallon than diesel at the moment here at least. Core support is different than the diesel one. But, if you stick to 92+ getting a diesel core support while be super easy if you want to change over.
No obd2 on the 250's and up even if newer than 1996. OBD2 wasn't required on that weight vehicles at the time. Only in 2010 have heavy duty vehicles needed OBD2.
No obd2 on the 250's and up even if newer than 1996. OBD2 wasn't required on that weight vehicles at the time. Only in 2010 have heavy duty vehicles needed OBD2.
That may be true, but most if not all places require you to drop in a same year or newer engine when doing engine swaps. Even in the valley where we dont get e-checked its illegal.
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