Severe backfire, no power
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Severe backfire, no power
I was hoping I could figure this out without asking you guys for help...AGAIN! but, I couldn't
F-150 in signature. It starts quickly but the idle is fairly rough, not bad, but rougher than I think it should be.
I put it in gear and depress gas pedal, the engine just POPS with backfiring through the intake and doesn't go anywhere. It will die if you give it too much throttle but if you back off it will stay running.
If the engine is cold and you do this, it wont backfire and sputter and buck it actually goes with little problem but still has a rough idle. When cold it WILL backfire if you really get into the gas pedal.
It seems if it idles for a couple minutes (enough for high idle to kick down) and then try, that is when it is at its worst. It is not driveable and hate to even run it in fear of damaging pistons or vaves.
I get no codes with KOEO and the KOER it will not run through the self test and won't let me do the dynamic test....
Very strange. I am about to sell the truck, I have been stuck with this problem for months.
I have replaced fuel pump, fuel filter, MAF sensor, O2 sensor, fuel pressure regulator, distributor, cap/rotor, plugs, wires, removed injectors and cleaned them, new TPS, ICM, purge valve solenoid... I have not really thrown parts at the issue, 90% of these parts were bad and needed replacing.
Check engine light comes on but only after you give it gas under load.
I was thinking of testing the voltage on the new TPS just to make sure it is functioning? Previous owner disabled "smog" pump system so I removed crossover tube and plugged one hold with bolt but other hole is open...could that be it? Haven't checked knock sensor but, could that be it? I have checked over and over for a vacuum leak and found none and, honestly, this would have to be a massive vacuum leak to make it this severe.
Sorry for the long post. Thank you for help
F-150 in signature. It starts quickly but the idle is fairly rough, not bad, but rougher than I think it should be.
I put it in gear and depress gas pedal, the engine just POPS with backfiring through the intake and doesn't go anywhere. It will die if you give it too much throttle but if you back off it will stay running.
If the engine is cold and you do this, it wont backfire and sputter and buck it actually goes with little problem but still has a rough idle. When cold it WILL backfire if you really get into the gas pedal.
It seems if it idles for a couple minutes (enough for high idle to kick down) and then try, that is when it is at its worst. It is not driveable and hate to even run it in fear of damaging pistons or vaves.
I get no codes with KOEO and the KOER it will not run through the self test and won't let me do the dynamic test....
Very strange. I am about to sell the truck, I have been stuck with this problem for months.
I have replaced fuel pump, fuel filter, MAF sensor, O2 sensor, fuel pressure regulator, distributor, cap/rotor, plugs, wires, removed injectors and cleaned them, new TPS, ICM, purge valve solenoid... I have not really thrown parts at the issue, 90% of these parts were bad and needed replacing.
Check engine light comes on but only after you give it gas under load.
I was thinking of testing the voltage on the new TPS just to make sure it is functioning? Previous owner disabled "smog" pump system so I removed crossover tube and plugged one hold with bolt but other hole is open...could that be it? Haven't checked knock sensor but, could that be it? I have checked over and over for a vacuum leak and found none and, honestly, this would have to be a massive vacuum leak to make it this severe.
Sorry for the long post. Thank you for help
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I can't see the engine/truck info, except it is possible its a 351.
If you haven't plugged both holes, yes, both need to be plugged. It's allowing fresh air into the exhaust. That hole runs the entire length of the head. Both sides have smog bumps cast into each exhaust port that is noticeable if you remove the exhaust manifold.
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If you haven't plugged both holes, yes, both need to be plugged. It's allowing fresh air into the exhaust. That hole runs the entire length of the head. Both sides have smog bumps cast into each exhaust port that is noticeable if you remove the exhaust manifold.
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#4
Yea double check your firing order and timing, correct if find it necessary.
If that checks out put a vac gauge on it check for steady needle, if needle isn't steady the vacuum reading varies widely do a compression test.
Backfiring through intake, you might have a sticky valve or related issue causing you some grief.
If that checks out put a vac gauge on it check for steady needle, if needle isn't steady the vacuum reading varies widely do a compression test.
Backfiring through intake, you might have a sticky valve or related issue causing you some grief.
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Yea double check your firing order and timing, correct if find it necessary.
If that checks out put a vac gauge on it check for steady needle, if needle isn't steady the vacuum reading varies widely do a compression test.
Backfiring through intake, you might have a sticky valve or related issue causing you some grief.
If that checks out put a vac gauge on it check for steady needle, if needle isn't steady the vacuum reading varies widely do a compression test.
Backfiring through intake, you might have a sticky valve or related issue causing you some grief.
I did replace all of the lifters and cleaned heads thoroughly when I replaced the head gaskets but I suppose that's still a possibility. How would I correct a sticky valve? Also, the backfire is so severe it sounds like it is more than one cyl if not all 8.
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You said the MIL comes on and if that happens you have a code set in CM. That should tell the problem. Sounds like you are running KOEO but are not waiting for the CM codes after the space.
Your EGR valve may also be stuck open or low fuel pressure to cause a lean mix for the backfiring.
Your EGR valve may also be stuck open or low fuel pressure to cause a lean mix for the backfiring.
Thank you gents for you replies
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Yea I miss read that part of your original post, you gotta plug that other hole in the back of the other head. Thought you plugged the exhaust side but left the air supply end to it open I see now that is not the case, so yea you'll wanna plug that leak.
Do that first before anything else.
Do that first before anything else.
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Ok, that code makes sense then. For a minute I thought it meant my computer was fried!
Copy that Ill plug that hole tomorrow. It turns out that the drivers side hole had clean threads but this passenger side has gunk all on the threads so I work some at getting those threads cleaned up.
Ill do that and report back.
Thank you for all your help gents and your patience
Copy that Ill plug that hole tomorrow. It turns out that the drivers side hole had clean threads but this passenger side has gunk all on the threads so I work some at getting those threads cleaned up.
Ill do that and report back.
Thank you for all your help gents and your patience