Brief Crank but No Start After Installing Gauges
#1
Brief Crank but No Start After Installing Gauges
Need some ideas from you guys. Truck cranks for 1/2 second but wont start.
The glow plug light comes on as normal and holds on for a few second as expected (warm engine), but flickers once before it turns off...The engine then cranks for 1/2 a second and all goes dead.
This happened after I energized the Auber dual LED gauge.
I did the following:
I tapped into the 12-volt-when-ignition-on wire coming out of the accelerator pedal wiring harness and ran power to the new dual gauge. (Was this a mistake?)
The gauge came on but one of the rows of LEDS was getting an ERROR code, so as per their directions, I shorted the pos and negative 12 volt connections on the back of the gauge to see if one of the pyrometer was faulty or if it was a problem with the gauge itself (not sure why they heck they want you to do that) and the gauge went dead.
The truck was running at the time but now engine would not accelerate...no response from accelerator. oh oh....
http://auberins.com/images/Manual/Au...3%20manual.pdf
I started popping out fuses and found that 10amp fuse #45 was blown. I replaced it and tried to start truck again and see if would get response from accelerator. The truck cranks for 1/2 a second then dies.
Again, I noticed the glow plug light comes on as normal but turns off a little faster than I would expect and flickers ONCE. Kinda odd.
WHAT DID I DO? I took the splice off of the 12 volt wire and removed the ground to the gauge.
The glow plug light comes on as normal and holds on for a few second as expected (warm engine), but flickers once before it turns off...The engine then cranks for 1/2 a second and all goes dead.
This happened after I energized the Auber dual LED gauge.
I did the following:
I tapped into the 12-volt-when-ignition-on wire coming out of the accelerator pedal wiring harness and ran power to the new dual gauge. (Was this a mistake?)
The gauge came on but one of the rows of LEDS was getting an ERROR code, so as per their directions, I shorted the pos and negative 12 volt connections on the back of the gauge to see if one of the pyrometer was faulty or if it was a problem with the gauge itself (not sure why they heck they want you to do that) and the gauge went dead.
The truck was running at the time but now engine would not accelerate...no response from accelerator. oh oh....
http://auberins.com/images/Manual/Au...3%20manual.pdf
I started popping out fuses and found that 10amp fuse #45 was blown. I replaced it and tried to start truck again and see if would get response from accelerator. The truck cranks for 1/2 a second then dies.
Again, I noticed the glow plug light comes on as normal but turns off a little faster than I would expect and flickers ONCE. Kinda odd.
WHAT DID I DO? I took the splice off of the 12 volt wire and removed the ground to the gauge.
#3
I'm not saying this might be your problem but sometimes my truck does what you're describing as far as the half a second crank. Push the shifter all the way up to park or try to start it in neutral. Aside from that I'm clueless. Good luck
EDIT: It's worth a shot and it's free it's hard to argue with that
EDIT: It's worth a shot and it's free it's hard to argue with that
#4
Oh thanks Guys. I will move the shifter and try to start again.
3-Gauge Install Pictures
In the meantime, the harness Im talking about can be seen in the picture in the link above....in the foreground. I looked for the wire they recommend splicing too, but I did not find that particular harness under my truck, so I just searched for another proximate harness with a 12 volt source (ignition on only). The wire itself is still in perfectly good condition after I took off the spice so I dont think this is the issue.
Maybe I blew another fuse other than #45?
3-Gauge Install Pictures
In the meantime, the harness Im talking about can be seen in the picture in the link above....in the foreground. I looked for the wire they recommend splicing too, but I did not find that particular harness under my truck, so I just searched for another proximate harness with a 12 volt source (ignition on only). The wire itself is still in perfectly good condition after I took off the spice so I dont think this is the issue.
Maybe I blew another fuse other than #45?
#5
I don't see anywhere in the instructions where it ways to short the 12v positive to negative. Is that in a different .pdf, maybe? I don't think the wire to the throttle position sensor was probably the best place to get power. The radio or something would have been a better choice; or anything that doesn't have anything to do with the engine controls.
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I don't see anywhere in the instructions where it ways to short the 12v positive to negative. Is that in a different .pdf, maybe? I don't think the wire to the throttle position sensor was probably the best place to get power. The radio or something would have been a better choice; or anything that doesn't have anything to do with the engine controls.
See bullet "5)"
http://www.auberins.com/Quick%20Guid...1e6f7e59392e5d
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#8
I don't see anywhere in the instructions where it ways to short the 12v positive to negative. Is that in a different .pdf, maybe? I don't think the wire to the throttle position sensor was probably the best place to get power. The radio or something would have been a better choice; or anything that doesn't have anything to do with the engine controls.
#9
That says to short terminals 6 & 7, which are the leads to the thermocouple. If you shorted the 12v positive and negative you shorted 1 & 2, which would explain the blown fuse. Now to figure out why the truck won't crank for more than half a second. Is it still blowing the fuse when you try to start?
#10
t6/t7 are the 12volt terminals.
But you're right it makes no sense to short out the 12v power.
That being said, I put the truck in Neutral and Park and tried to start it both positions and I have the same results but on some occasions the glow plug light doesnt even come on.
After 4 or 5 times trying to start it the dashboard starting flashing like it was POSSESSED. Needles jumping up and down, dashboard going on and off.....as if I was turning the key back and forth between off and on, off and on.
Did I cook a relay? Sheez
Fuse 45 is in tact. It didnt blow again.
But you're right it makes no sense to short out the 12v power.
That being said, I put the truck in Neutral and Park and tried to start it both positions and I have the same results but on some occasions the glow plug light doesnt even come on.
After 4 or 5 times trying to start it the dashboard starting flashing like it was POSSESSED. Needles jumping up and down, dashboard going on and off.....as if I was turning the key back and forth between off and on, off and on.
Did I cook a relay? Sheez
Fuse 45 is in tact. It didnt blow again.
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6 and 7 have a plus and minus, but those are the markings that you look for on the thermocouple... not a voltage into the sensor.
You sent an "illegal command" into the PCM when you shorted the power to the Throttle Position Sensor. The PCM is still hanging on to that error. Reboot the PCM (remove power) and hope nothing is damaged.
You sent an "illegal command" into the PCM when you shorted the power to the Throttle Position Sensor. The PCM is still hanging on to that error. Reboot the PCM (remove power) and hope nothing is damaged.
#15
I agree that it sounds like a battery connection. Ive had weak batteries in the past and it gives a similar symptom. However I have a plug in jumper unit. Not battery powered but rather plug-in type. I used it and its not having any effect.
Im gonna try swapping those relays...