6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Intercooler max psi

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-26-2014, 10:19 AM
Kert0307's Avatar
Kert0307
Kert0307 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Iowa
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Intercooler max psi

Anyone know what the max "safe" psi is for the stock plastic end intercooler? Also can the stock style that you can buy with aluminum sides for around $450ish take more pressure or is it better just to jump up to an AFE or Mishimoto for twice the cost for higher psi capability?
 
  #2  
Old 02-26-2014, 11:22 AM
npccpartsman's Avatar
npccpartsman
npccpartsman is offline
Hotshot

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Stuttgart, Ar
Posts: 15,326
Received 68 Likes on 42 Posts
It's not that much although mine has seen 35-40 several times. I've had a lot of folks say they're surprised I haven't blown it out. I actually think you'd be better off to go with the Banks than AFE or Mishi.
 
  #3  
Old 02-26-2014, 11:27 AM
Kert0307's Avatar
Kert0307
Kert0307 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Iowa
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I did find some posts by guys saying they've hit the Banks one with spikes of 100psi on another forum with some compound turbo setups. I'm looking for something that will hang in the 45 psi range.


Edit:
I was hoping one like this one would work because it's about half the price of the Banks

 
  #4  
Old 02-26-2014, 11:43 AM
Money-Pit's Avatar
Money-Pit
Money-Pit is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 2,169
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Boost psi as we see on a gauge is resistance to flow. If you're trying to get more air in the motor, looks for ways to increase flow instead of boost.

Example....take a water or air hose, install a pressure gauge inline, then add a valve after the guage. Close the valve, psi goes up.... slowly crack open the valve, and psi goes down, BUT your flow goes up.

Just another one of those things that make you go....hmmmm

 
  #5  
Old 02-26-2014, 06:28 PM
dannyboy950's Avatar
dannyboy950
dannyboy950 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,123
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
The CAC is probably the least understood and over looked system on the 6.0.
I have never actually seen pressure figures on the CAC because pressure is not useually a consideration. The CAC is a simple flow thru device no moveing parts and no sensors to watch so it is often overlooked. It simply sits there doing it's job.

Now the CAC and radiator are both oversized for the 6.0 it was actually buit for bigger engines on Bluebird busses and class 6&7 trucks. While I am talking about the surface area here not the capicity of fluid in the radiator.

Overtime the inside surfaces of the CAC get a coating of dust and oil on the tube surfaces and can build up and block the tubes restricting air flow and createing back pressure and in oil colecting in the bottom part of the CAC and you can have a system rupture.
 
  #6  
Old 02-26-2014, 09:32 PM
05F250DSL's Avatar
05F250DSL
05F250DSL is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,303
Received 83 Likes on 55 Posts
So seeing as there gets to be build up in the intercooler itself and I have a spare would one cap and fill with a simple green solution and clean it out idunno once a year or so swap the clean one in? Or is there not enough gain or dirt in there to worry about?

If I was buying new I would go for an all aluminum one.
 
  #7  
Old 02-27-2014, 03:49 AM
dannyboy950's Avatar
dannyboy950
dannyboy950 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,123
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
That will depend a lot on the trucks work environment and work conditions.
Maintenance in our fleet was determined by engine hours run not mileage, most of our trucks ran all day but seldom put more than 20 miles on the clock. Trucks that worked in high dust environments got cleaned once a year others maybe every 2 the majority were once a year. This was also compounded by how much slobber the ccv made or if the ccv had been modded.

While just filling with simple green or the like works I recomend boiling it if your in a high dust environment.
 
  #8  
Old 02-27-2014, 10:01 AM
Kert0307's Avatar
Kert0307
Kert0307 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Iowa
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I think you guys are missing what I'm trying to find out here... I'm going to be using a Ford 6.0 intercooler in an application that will probably see up to 45 PSI on a semi-regular basis and I'm cautious of the plastic sides. I'm wondering if the stock style with all aluminum welded on sides will hold up or if I need to spend the big money on AFE, Banks, Mishi for one that will live.
 
  #9  
Old 02-27-2014, 10:02 AM
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
mhoefer is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
The plastic tube pre turbo takes next to no pressure, the tube post turbo, through inter cooler is probably good to 30 psi, maybe a bit more. The pre turbo is only atmospheric air being sucked by the turbo through the air filter, I don't know what negative pressure, maybe 5 - 10 psi. Better to change this out with solid tubes for larger boost applications. Definitely all aluminum tubes and radiator is the way to go. Mishimoto should be able to confirm their max psi rating. I have not seen one in person or the banks so can't speak to quality. I would like to do mishimoto one say, solid intake side tube and new boots one day. Probably do mishimoto but I am not planning bigger boost.
 
  #10  
Old 02-27-2014, 01:07 PM
Rusty Axlerod's Avatar
Rusty Axlerod
Rusty Axlerod is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama)
Posts: 8,227
Received 134 Likes on 79 Posts
I have seen a couple of factory CACs fail. Both spit out the rubber o-ring between the body and the plastic end tanks. I would consider a one piece unit a good upgrade if you plan on upping the boost a bit. I have no experience with the aftermarket ones to recommend anything specific. An alternate plan might be to set aside the $$ for the one piece and see how the factory unit holds up.
 
  #11  
Old 02-27-2014, 01:51 PM
dannyboy950's Avatar
dannyboy950
dannyboy950 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,123
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Since you are planning a non stock application Fords numbers would be meaningless anyway like was mentioned air flow is more a factor than pressure.
 
  #12  
Old 02-27-2014, 01:56 PM
Kert0307's Avatar
Kert0307
Kert0307 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Iowa
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The Ford 6.0 cooler will handle the flow fine, mostly worried about pressure. Then again my boost might not end up being as high as I think because I did do a little porting of the head, manifold, and turbo housing...
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
greenstar
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
04-02-2014 06:04 AM
desertrat64
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
09-28-2010 11:00 PM
Heff-7.3PSD
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
04-16-2008 04:49 PM
Rodeohauler300
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
16
03-27-2007 03:15 PM
Toreador_Diesel
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
09-23-2003 10:00 AM



Quick Reply: Intercooler max psi



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:43 PM.